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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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Violence begats violence. That's all that need be said.

I was never spanked as a child. And I prefer to think that I'm not undisciplined.


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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Yes. Unless you want your kids to grow up undisciplined brats, you should spank them.


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Picture of KatherineTheGreat
Registered: November 20, 2005
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I think that spanking at a certain age should stop. When you're ten, you are able to understand the reason behind being in trouble beyond "Because Mommy said 'no'." The punishment should have something to do with the crime (Ex. The kid throws a board with nails in the street, so the punishment is making him/her go clean up the highway for an hour the next day). But at too young an age its impossible to make a child understand why that rule is in place, and a crime-related punishment just won't have any affect. The child is only capable of understanding 'don't do it because I'll get spanked'.

At a certain age it is reasonable, as long as you realize children outgrow being spanked.

To add on to what Wolfie said (There are better ways to teach children than yelling and hitting), thats true, but you have to take in to account that a three-year-old may not be able to understand 'Don't run into the street because its dangerous'. But they will understand 'Don't run into the street because you'll be spanked.'


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Registered: February 26, 2002
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Alrite, thats all fine that you know what you mean. But the way you make it sound is just sick. Read it for yourself. Disciplining kids is not a joke. At least for me it isn't, I have known many kids, and also my mom, who have been abused and its not a funny situation. Just letting you know. So you might wanna be a little careful next time when someone is discussing this kind of topic.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Oh your such a drama queen! I know what i meant.


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Registered: February 26, 2002
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I dont want kids

Thank God.

And before you said a beating and now you are saying a whooping. Who sounds dramatic, not to mention scary? Yep, that would be you.


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
Picture of Knighthammer
Registered: August 09, 2006
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I dont want kids but if i have they are gonna know whos the king and whos the prince and dont be so dramatic i meant like a spanking or a whooping.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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You are gonna beat your kid?! God forbid, or in your case, I hope the Force forbids you, from ever having children.


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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All i know is that ,the Force forbid, that if i ever have kids and they screw up or act up i am beating that ass!


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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I grew up in fear of the wooden spoon. I was definetly spanked as a child and that worked until I was like 12 and knew I could outrun my mom.

I am for the whole disciplining your child because you can see a dramatic difference in how the kid acts. My little cousins, for instance, are extremely disrespectful and bratty because my aunt and uncle never punish them. They may yell after they get frustrated, but that is still met with a stuck out tongue and rolled eyes. The point is, kids who don't get spanked don't fear the consequences of their actions as much. But, the issue of spanking is definetly a controversial one because some parents take it waaay too far.
My mom was actually abused when she grew up, a few times was almost killed by her mother. This may have made my mom respectful and obedient, but she also lived in fear and went through horrible times of depression and anger. The point is, you have to be careful not to cross the line with spanking. I think it works, (me and my brother turned out pretty ok Wink) but if you can find a better way that works just as well then go for it. So far, I haven't been convinced with just yelling and giving time outs.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Sometimes talk works. More often a good slap works.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: December 18, 2005
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thats awful. i work with children and i've only had to yell maybe twice. if you just know how to talk to them they do listen.

maybe you just are inexperienced with kids. meep.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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The fact remains if your kid is yelling and raiseing hell as few whacks WILL put him in line. It may take one time it may take 100 times but he will get it eventually.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: June 02, 2005
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don't know if anyone already commented on this but...

how about spanking a child because he/she hit/mistreat another child? Kids arent usually mature and could consider this...

"if my mummy/daddy are spanking/hitting me I guess it's ok to hit/spank other people".(spanked kids consider that 'hitting'...at least that's what i have seen when parents spank their kids in public)

I think it is a contradiction when you consider this point. Using physical punishment to punish a kid's physical abuse (aka hitting) to another kid...

But I dont really know, I was spanked as a younger kid...and I turned out fine....altho i am a bit aggressive...


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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i got hit many times as a child

You're wicked immature, so obviously that's a side affect. In any case, an exception doesn't disprove the rule. Give me proof that all these behavioral scientists are wrong.

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Those are just a bunch of made-up excuses from parents who cant discipline their children!
If it was made up then there wouldn't be those symptoms caused by "discipline." There is a fuzzy line between spanking and beating. If you have to resort to violence to discipline your child, you as a parent are doing something wrong.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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quote:
Originally posted by Wolfie:
I just believe there are better ways to teach children then with hitting and yelling.

I dont.


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Registered: December 18, 2005
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I just don't think hitting anything to get it to listen to you is right. Why use violence to control people. Well that's how I was raised... I just believe there are better ways to teach children then with hitting and yelling.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Originally posted by yogore:
Bad relationships with parents, physical abuse problems, low self esteem, anger management issues, etc.

Oh my ass! Those are just a bunch of made-up excuses from parents who cant discipline their children! I dont think I was ever beaten but i got hit many times as a child and i have HIGH self esteem, no anger management issues and a great relationship with my parents and i have never hit anyone who didnt have it coming.


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Like what?

Bad relationships with parents, physical abuse problems, low self esteem, anger management issues, etc.


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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Like what?


The original draft of The Lord of the Rings featured Chuck Norris instead of Frodo Baggins. It was only 5 pages long, as Chuck roundhouse-kicked Sauron's ass halfway through the first chapter.
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