I used to believe that when I was young that my mom was a perfect person and could do no wrong.....all my life until, 2 days ago...I have a teen of my own and never thought the day would come that I had to choose between my daughter and my mother...as shocking as this will come to all of you I chose my daughters side of the whole thing because my (perfect) mom was indeed very wrong...and she needed to know that I don't care who you are... you mess with my kids you, mess with me and that be the only way it is!!!!!!!!!

Heh. Celtic you make me laugh.

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I bet your mothers are real proud of all you people, SIKE!!!!

Very mature, marine. Are you now going to cough and whisper "loser" or do you have, like, six period gym class and you sooooo like not want to sweat 'cause it's like ew serious B.O?

I bet your mothers are real proud of all you people, SIKE!!!!

Heh. I'm going to be deep now, but I doubt certain people (that shall remain nameless) will understand...

A child is never its mother's nor father's. A child is of himself. A parent can attempt to force any idea and opinion into a child, but it lies on the will and thought of the child itself to decide what it wants. A parents cannot, regardless of how much he/she tries, take away the mental freedom of the child, by which I mean his right to his own opinion. And if the parents is enough of an idiot to attempt to take this freedom away from the child, then he/she needs a slap in the face, pronto. Once you take away the mental freedom of a person, let it be your lover, family member, or your child, you have killed the person mentally.

Going on the physical terms of this case, a mother still is not entitled to anything of the child regardless of the fact that she cares for the child. An abusive, mentally or emotionally, mother should never be honored, much less respected.

You people are so ungreatful.

9 months does not give her a right to dominate over her child's entire life. yes, she could still have a part, but it's the manner in which she does it which is the problem.

Yeah, your mom is pretty horrible. She carried you in her womb for 9 months and raised you to be the person you are today providing shelter, food, and clothes for you. What nerve she has in still trying to play a part in your life that's only exsistence is owed to her.

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I guess I should have said it different she led me to belivev that she was perfect I never really thought she was....My problem with her is that she insulted my child infront of her and then feels she has no responsablitity to even apolagize to her , if she could just say sorry I think I could move on from it but until she does I'm afraid that by letting it goI'm showing my daughter that it's ok for someone to feel that way about you even nana and I believe that she was wrong....and my daughter deserves an apolagy

Ok, maybe if you explain to your mother that it hurt your daughter's feelings and ask her how she would feel if someone said that to you, or even her. I know this is the common sense advice but sometimes older people need reminded. Maybe your mother is jealous of your daughter (sounds absurd, I know) She may be jealous because now your daughter and other family members have more of your attention. She's used to being mommy, the one you always run to and now she isn't. It sinks in when they're older because they start to feel old, unwanted and burdensome. Sit you mother down and tell her how you feel and tell her that she's still your mother, you still love her and need her but really think that she was out of line and that your daughter did not deserve to be treated that way. This may not work, but it's worth a shot. Good luck.

Baths use less water than long showers anyway.

thank you for looking at my advice and YOUR MOM FREAKED OVER A BATH!!? Holy Cow your mom whould hate me I take like 40 minute showers jesu cristo thats kinda nuts. any way on the grandma and grandma living with you that should change as soon as you can figure out how so you can parent your own way and not have your mom breathing down your back also there are many very nice assited living and old peoples homes around the country you may want to look at them for your folks

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Originally posted by ampmaster:
Dude the book of law from my perspective is that you parented me your way let me parent my way and if you have any problem take it up with me or back down. Your mother is not your mom anymore but she is your daughters grandmother but she(your daughter)is your child first so the advice from doctor amp (10x more excellent than doctor phil) is talk to your mom and lay down some ground rules for her to follow and explain to her the behavior you find detrimental to your child any way thats my advice and I'm going to stop typing to keep from sounding more like a sappy dear abby clone

I totally agree she is the one who needs to back off.... ok here is the thing with her she runs when she doesn't get her way ...the situation is this my husband and I rented a house with my parents for the main reason .....he (my dad) didn't want my mom to be alone when he goes....ok we fell for it....so it's only been a month and my mother freaks out when my daughter wanted to take a bath for however long a time....she was not taking up a whole bathroom as we have another downstairs....I just think my mother expected me to give her hell for something only she saw as a big (huge) deal.....well NOT GOING TO HAPPEN...thanks and keep the advice coming

Dude the book of law from my perspective is that you parented me your way let me parent my way and if you have any problem take it up with me or back down. Your mother is not your mom anymore but she is your daughters grandmother but she(your daughter)is your child first so the advice from doctor amp (10x more excellent than doctor phil) is talk to your mom and lay down some ground rules for her to follow and explain to her the behavior you find detrimental to your child any way thats my advice and I'm going to stop typing to keep from sounding more like a sappy dear abby clone

I guess I should have said it different she led me to belivev that she was perfect I never really thought she was....My problem with her is that she insulted my child infront of her and then feels she has no responsablitity to even apolagize to her , if she could just say sorry I think I could move on from it but until she does I'm afraid that by letting it goI'm showing my daughter that it's ok for someone to feel that way about you even nana and I believe that she was wrong....and my daughter deserves an apolagy

Well I think that we all learn that when we have kids of our own (I have none, but I am an active aunt) we get more protective. It gets even more like that with grandchildren I believe. Whatever your situation was, you should try seeing it from your moms prospective and not turn on her. Remember that you thought she was perfect before, and things really haven't changed that much. Try to come to a mutual agreement and work something out to where they are both happy. After all she is still your mom, and wants nothing more than for her children and grandchildren to be happy.