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The meaning and sacrement of marrage is love. Gay or Straight, it should be no different.

Yes, love is a requirement of marriage. Tell me, since you are Christian, how come you allow gay marriages??? The true meaning of marriage lies in love between TWO people of the OPPOSITE SEX. Not the same sex.

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Jamaica, you're choice of phrases and words is appalling. I sincerely hope that one day you actually have sex, and don't consider it a sin.

Yes, i will certainly enjoy it knowing that i will do it on my wedding night. Yes, there would be pain, but pain is part of that beautiful act of love. Sex isn't a sin as long as you are doing it out of love, not lust and more importantly if you are doing it when you are already married or within the context of marriage.

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Anytime two things are compared, you can assume that they are different.

Yes, but they need to be similar in someways. yes, they're both hot topics, ut beyond that, there are few similarities.

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Actually, it is not discrimination. It is just NOT right.

Good argument.

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Besides, if they allow it, then it DEFIES the whole meaning of the sacrament of marriage.

The meaning and sacrement of marrage is love. Gay or Straight, it should be no different.

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It is not only immoral but it is like you are making the church a laughingstock or something.

Marriage and the church do not go together all the time.

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They both have something to do with humans and reproduction.

Marriage isn't about reproduction. It is not a requirment to have children once you are married.

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Well, if that is true than if God accepts everyone than why wouldn't He accept gay people?

No one knows what god thinks. When people tell each other "God hates that" they are assuming that God holds the same ideals as them.

Slightly on-off subject to what you just said, some religious nuts condemned MISTER ROGERS for saying that he loves us just the way we are, as that suggests that he loves gay kids too, when apparently he was supposed to say that all gays go to hell. His funeral was picketed by protesters holding "God hates f*gs" signs". MISTER ROGERS people, how the **** do you attack him?

I know that that I have stated that this is one of those many repetitive threads but I just thought of something that I wanted to say before I stop posting on this subject. Has anyone seen that United Church of Christ commerical that has people-of all ages, even little kids- where they do that hand thing saying "Here's the church, here's the stepple, open the doors and see all the people." Well, my point is this. My point is that in the commerical the voice-over talks about how God accepts everyone and that everyone is accepted in church no matter who they are or what they believe. Well, if that is true than if God accepts everyone than why wouldn't He accept gay people?

I know that that I have stated that this is one of those many repetitive threads but I just thought of something that I wanted to say before I stop posting on this subject. Has anyone seen that United Christ Church commerical that has people-of all ages, even little kids- where they do that hand thing saying "Here's the church, here's the stepple, open the doors and see all the people." Well, my point is this. My point is that in the commerical the voice-over talks about how God accepts everyone and that everyone is accepted in church no matter who they are or what they believe. Well, if that is true than if God accepts everyone than why wouldn't He accept gay people?

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Abortion is not the same as gay marriage.


Somehow, i think there is a connection.

Gay people can't have babies. How can you say there is a connection? There is nothing behind it. No logic...not even bad logic...::crying::

So this is a thread about gay marriage again, right? Thank you.

No offense but spinning around and around and around makes you become extremely nauses and irritable. For about the thousandth time I have had to say the following: There is absolutely nothing wrong with being gay and if you have a problem with it than that just shows how close-minded, judgemental, and ignorant you are and yet your kids still want to be just like you? Now, that is a scary thought.

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because yogore obviously thinks that a human life form inside a woman's body is some kind of parasite

Not to be completely unkind and mean, but before 21 weeks...a fetus is a parasite.
par-a-site n.
1. An organism that grows, feeds, and it sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
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To be redundant...this is a gay marriage thread. What the hell is abortion doing here?

Jamaica, you're choice of phrases and words is appalling. I sincerely hope that one day you actually have sex, and don't consider it a sin.

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Tell me again why an unborn is not a living person, would you?

because yogore obviously thinks that a human life form inside a woman's body is some kind of parasite, a monster or an alien unless that human life form shows itself through childbirth. Maybe in his mind, when we were fetuses, we were all parasite, aliens or monsters. But then, again.. in his mind, when we came out of our mother's vagina, we are humans.

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Abortion is not the same as gay marriage.

Somehow, i think there is a connection. They both have something to do with humans and reproduction. In abortion, it requires 2 persons of the opposite sex to create a baby, although, they are so heartless, they decided to abort it... On the other hand, gay marriage is a marriage between two people of the same sex. They cannot produce a baby because they don't have the sperm cell and the egg cell for it... I think both abortion and gay marriage are different issues that are connected with one another.

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Bogey-
I understand that these are both hotbed topics, but is comparing abortion and gay marriage really nescessary?

Yogore made a statement that was just too contradicting to his abortion stance. I wanted to bring out the irony. But, to answer your question - No, I guess it isn't necessary; but then again, what is necessity being based off of and is anything really necessary?

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Many Other People-
Is it nescessary to compare abortion to everything?

No, I don't think it is necessary. But then again, most things (if anything) aren't necessary. The point of comparing is to get people thinking in an objective and logical way.

Bogey-
I understand that these are both hotbed topics, but is comparing abortion and gay marriage really nescessary?
Many Other People-
Is it nescessary to compare abortion to everything?

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so wtf is goin on with bannin gay marrige ?

Actually, it is not discrimination. It is just NOT right. Marriage is supposed to be for man and woman, not same sex... Besides, if they allow it, then it DEFIES the whole meaning of the sacrament of marriage. I have nothing against homosexuals. In fact, i got many friends who are gays, and sure, they can have their lovers and stuff, but gay marriage is TOTALLY extreme. It is not only immoral but it is like you are making the church a laughingstock or something.

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There is nothing physically different between a homosexual and a heterosexual. There is a physical difference between a fetus or embryo and a post born person. You cannot tell the difference between a heterosexual and a homosexual by anything except their sexual orientation. A fetus and a living person are easily differenciated between.

First off, no two humans are physically equivalent.

Anyway, you are basing human hood solely off of physical appearance. That is not logical whatsoever.

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I believe in freedom for living people.

Tell me again why an unborn is not a living person, would you? Can you also tell me why a human person cannot be a "parasite"?

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Abortion is not the same as gay marriage.

Really? C'mon, Yogore, are you against comparisons? Anytime two things are compared, you can assume that they are different.

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So, because homosexuals are different from me, doesn't that mean that they aren't equal? Or, are you contradicting yourself on two different boards?

I think that both types of humans, homosexuals and unborns, should be given equality and that their human dignity should be respected.

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There is nothing physically different between a homosexual and a heterosexual. There is a physical difference between a fetus or embryo and a post born person. You cannot tell the difference between a heterosexual and a homosexual by anything except their sexual orientation. A fetus and a living person are easily differenciated between.

I am not contradicting myself. I believe in freedom for living people. Abortion is not the same as gay marriage.

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It's not a stupid topic in it being discussed. It is only stupid in the respect that we should even have to discuss giving equality.

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I'll quote you, Yogore, on why unborns aren't equal to born humans:
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Because the fetus (or embryo) is not the same as you or I.

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So, because homosexuals are different from me, doesn't that mean that they aren't equal? Or, are you contradicting yourself on two different boards?

I think that both types of humans, homosexuals and unborns, should be given equality and that their human dignity should be respected.

It's not a stupid topic in it being discussed. It is only stupid in the respect that we should even have to discuss giving equality.