IT'S BETTER TO BE LOVED FOR WHO YOU ARE

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The Bible still has more knowledge than you do.

No it doesn't. If the bible had an IQ, it would be -30. The bible implies that our solar system is Geocentric. That's wrong. The bible says there was a global flood. Science proves that was impossible. The bible says nothing about dinosaurs or other prehistoric megafauna. Science does. The bible can't tell you how fast a star, 1,000,000 lightyears away, is moving. Science can. You say homosexuality is a choice. Science has proved that to be wrong, my best friend proved that to be wrong, his friends proved that to be wrong, every other gay person in America proved that to be wrong, every gay teen that has been beaten up at school every single day has proved that to be wrong, parents of gay people who lost their children to ignorance proved that to be wrong, and whenever I looked into my friend's eyes and saw the hurt and fear there, that no matter what I did, I couldn't fix, proved you very very wrong. You're wrong. The bible is wrong. Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.

If you were anywhere near me right now, I'd stab you. And I wouldn't regret it or apologize for it.

And for every idiotic post you make, I'm gonna tear out a page from the bible. That's 74 pages, so far. Hell, I might even tear them to shreds and put them in my cats' litter box, if you really piss me off.

The Bible still has more knowledge than you do.
Science is good, but not good enough.

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Actually the Bible has more truth to it than you do, EarthGoddess.

No it doesn't. Science has more truth to it than the bible. And I am a science geek. I absorb scientific facts like a sponge. The bible knows nothing about the electromagnetic spectrum, I do. The bible knows nothing about human psychology, I do. Screw the bible. Science has given us medicine, trasnsportation, entertainment, a glimpse into the universe. The bible has only created stupid morons, like yourself, trying to hold the rest of the world back.

My questions were all literal and checkable by facts. We're studying the religion in humanities right now and we had a huge discussion on how the Bible has evolved and morphed from other stories.

What hypothetical question? He asked if you had proof and if you knew how long the stories took to be written down. Obviously, your answer is "no" to both.

I can tell you that it was a long, long time before the books of the Bible were written down. So long that many names, events, and dates have changed from the original stories. But they still bear resemblance to stories from other cultures. In fact, quite a few of the Biblical stories (especially those about God) look oddly similar to stories from the Babylonian and Canaanite cultures. However, by the time they were written down in the Hebrew culture, they had morphed into (almost) unique stories. It's all quite interesting, really. I encourage you to take a look deeper into the Bible.

I am not going to answer your hypothetical question.

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Actually the Bible has more truth to it than you do

Do you have proof? Do you know how long it was between the creation of the biblical stories and those stories being written down? It was a very long time. Not to mention the translation from ancient script to ancient script. One mistake, for example, was that the story of Noah says he was 900, but when checked, it was supposed to be 60 or something. That was only caught because it was obvious yet it still took a long time. It is evident that there must be more errors that have slipped in through translations and merging of cultures.

Heh, no it doesn't. You do know that it's a bunch of stories put into one book? Fictional stories? I'd take a theory over the Bible any day.

Actually the Bible has more truth to it than you do, EarthGoddess.

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a) there is anything wrong with homosexuailty
b) being gay makes a person unique
c) every gay person has dysfunctional complex emotional realities.

a. never said there was. unless you think i was calling it wrong by equating it to conservatism
b. But it might feel that way to the person who is searching
c. of course they don't

I'm not saying all gay people are like this. Maybe .02%

There's a major problem with banning gay marriage: the United States government is not actually permitted to make laws specifically excluding a group of people (homosexuals being the group in this case).

Despite that, this topic is really overdone. Legalizing gay marriage, although inevitable, is going to be a huge struggle. The government doesn't change its ways very easily at all. This is similar to the fact that we're not likely to elect a female president anytime soon: Americans in general fear too much change too rapidly, even those of us who advocate change.

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There are complex emotional realities in which someone is so unsure of who they are that they chose some things just so they will have a uniqueness.

I do not believe that that is true because I do not believe
a) there is anything wrong with homosexuailty
b) being gay makes a person unique
c) every gay person has dysfunctional complex emotional realities.

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No one is born gay everyone has a choice if they want to be gay or not.

Hmmmm. Who should I believe? A psycho Christian who don't know nothin' about being gay. Or a gay friend who's received death threats. Yeah, that's really tough.

Godammit rugar, stop pissing me off. Homosexuality not being a conscious choice is a SCIENTIFIC FACT. Put down your damn bible, open your fucking eyes and learn some real science.

Being gay is hardly unique. And I'm fairly sure self-preservation would be tantamount to that in any case.

Rugar, honestly, cut the crap. It's not doing anything to further this debate. I want to know why you think gays choose to be persecuted, not some babble about living life for God or whatever.

We choose to live the live because we Love God.
If we could we would give our lives for God, but we can't. Cause He's done given His life for us through His son Jesus Christ.

No one is born gay everyone has a choice if they want to be gay or not.

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There are complex emotional realities in which someone is so unsure of who they are that they chose some things just so they will have a uniqueness. I wasn't born a conservative. That doesn't mean I can't be one now.

How could they not? Why would anyone (masochists aside) choose to live a lifestyle that gets them harassed and even killed?

Of course, there are those individuals who choose to be gay, but that doesn't describe the homosexual population as a whole. The great majority of homosexuals must have been born that way. Logic and reason dictates such.

What? Don't tell me you're one of those people that believe gay people were born gay.

How did God give His people something fake to believe in?

That's not the truth. God didn't create jack, hun. God was just a regular person like the rest of us. He gave his people something fake to believe in, and they did. God didn't create anything. He was a regular person. He didn't create marriage, and gay people do not choose to be gay. I promise you that. So unless you are gay, then you have no proof that they choose to be gay. Just like I have no proof that God didn't create the universe. But God was a person, just not a spiritual being.