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OK, I don't care who the **** it is, but if anyone says anything that can cause a riot, I'm reporting. I'm not taking this **** anymore whether it comes from jamaica or yogore or dwm or bauhaus or anyone.

What do you mean riot?? really celtic, calm down ok?? I am just debating like everyone else. Also, if you report, I'll report on my own too.

OK, I don't care who the **** it is, but if anyone says anything that can cause a riot, I'm reporting. I'm not taking this **** anymore whether it comes from jamaica or yogore or dwm or bauhaus or anyone.

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Nothing like being high on yourself. Why are yours the right ways?

Because:
1. I don't smoke
2. I don't support abortion
3. I don't cuss
4. I don't think casual sex is fun
5. I don't do drugs
6. I give good advice
7. I believe in God
8. I don't commit suicide
9. I don't watch porn
10. God loves me and I love Him

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I want to have kids. I don't know where you are getting that from.

If you want to have kids, why do you support abortion??? If you think your spouse should abort her kid because she is burdened by it, get REAL. A good parent never says that a kid should be burdened, even if that child isn't even born yet.

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I don't know. Go ask 100 straight people if they're seriously sick of being straight. ::rolls eyes::

really??? What if I did ask them and they would say, "oh yes, we are really tired of it that is why we have joined in rallies on gay marriage to be made legal"

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Yogore, you said you are Christian and believe in God, but why would you support this?

I support this because I believe in equal rights.

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the Bible may be old but it is not outdated.

Then why don't you practice things like slavery which are obviously supported in the bible?

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I guess that is probably why yogore doesnt want his spouse in the future to have kids because he adores women so much and is planning to join a rally about women's rights...

I want to have kids. I don't know where you are getting that from.

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s women so much and is planning to join a rally about women's rights... More like lesbians rights or gay rights... I am not saying that I despise gays or lesbians..... I even have friends who are gays and they are fun to be with. but gay marriage is WRONG.[/qiuote] Don't use your friends to support your heterosexism. If you were really their friend, you would understand their needs for equal rights.

[quote]Yes, my definition of what is the right path may not mirror others, but mine definitely is the right one...

Nothing like being high on yourself. Why are yours the right ways?

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. The years may go on, there would always be an increase to population, but increase in gays or lesbians????

A certain percent of the population is GLBT, as the population increases, the percentage stays constant, but the number of gays and lesbians go up because the population has. I'm not sure if you understand that though. It's basic percentages.

Barkid,
My respect for you kicked up a notch. Even if I don't see eye to eye, at least you made a point there. ^__^ Thanks.

jam,
Would it be possible for you to post in one long post instead of a bunch of little ones?

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but mine definitely is the right one

::cough:: opinion ::coughcough::

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does that mean straight guys and straight girls are tired of being straight???

I don't know. Go ask 100 straight people if they're seriously sick of being straight. ::rolls eyes::

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Not only does it mock God and the creation of humans as man and woman only

Well then, it mocks God. He's all understanding. He'll get over it.

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I guess all my boards about saying no to drugs, teen sex, abortion and cussing are USELESS??? *sighs* Going to the right path means avoiding evil at all times.

Well, did you ever notice that a lot of little paths lead to one big path, or is this a new phenomenon? But going the right path also requires thought, so I guess you're not going to be there anytime soon.

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I guess that is probably why yogore doesnt want his spouse in the future to have kids because he adores women so much and is planning to join a rally about women's rights

Did this make sense to anyone besides jam, or am I just out of the loop of insanity?

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why would you support this?

Perhaps because God wanted tolerance?

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but it is not outdated

T__T Which Bible have you been reading?

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"Under God (God meaning Money)".

You do have a point there, Barkid...

FelJiao:
That is a very good question you ask, I think that whether or not homosexuality is a choice is what defines the debate. If it is a choice and not fixed and immutable, then people cannot use the "civil rights" argument because it is something they can change.
Every other civil rights cause, be it ethnicity rights, women's rights, or even handicapped rights, are based on things that cannot be changed except under extreme circumstances such as Michael Jackson skin procedures or sex change operations. If handicapped people could just choose not to need wheelchairs we would not have to build ramps. If black people didn't like the discrimination laws back in the early century they could just change their skin color, etc. If gay people didn't like not being able to get married they would just go back to being straight. Unfortunately their is no proof that being gay is a choice or something that happens at birth, hence the debate.

AMERICANGIRL:
While I applaud you for sticking up for yourself on this topic I must inform you that research has shown (indeed on several boards here even) that the founding fathers were not as a majority christian. While our laws do reflect some of the same laws from the 10 commandments, the most important laws that would define our country as "christian" are lacking, such as taking the lord's name in vain or a ban against practicing other religions. "Under God" refers to an undefined God or all Gods, whichever you would prefer. The fact that this appears on money makes me think that we are one nation "Under God (God meaning Money)". If you would like we can post links to websites that show the founding fathers were not strictly christian, as shown in their own words and documents. Also I must tell you that as a Christian myself I understand that we would like to take the bible literally but some things are kind of tough. For instance, the story of the Ark is a bit difficult to swallow literally, do some research on cubits and animal management and you will see why. When using the bible as a reference one must be a bit objective and willing to ask questions.

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the Bible is not outdated it is the supreme authority.

YES!! I do believe in this... the Bible may be old but it is not outdated. MAny of the ethical lessons and values that we have in society or being taught in schools COMES from the Bible.

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yogore, i know everyone sins but Christ can cleanse you from your sins and allow you to go to heaven if you do not believe that he is the son of God and that he came here to die for you than you will never get to go to heaven,maybe i am not the one that should study the Bible?
celtic, Christians are humans too you know, i do have a problem with judgeing people, but i am trying to be patient with you and everyone else here. it is very difficult when all of you are supporting somthing this wicked.

Yes, I believe and agree with the quote above. Yogore, you said you are Christian and believe in God, but why would you support this?

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I would post a link to a debate Yogore and I are currently having(and winning) on a different site about this topic, but I don't want to risk a psycho-newB invasion.

Whatever.. I guess that is probably why yogore doesnt want his spouse in the future to have kids because he adores women so much and is planning to join a rally about women's rights... More like lesbians rights or gay rights... I am not saying that I despise gays or lesbians..... I even have friends who are gays and they are fun to be with. but gay marriage is WRONG.

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The definition of the right path to one person may not mirror yours. Did that ever occur to you?

And could the reason that "gays and lesbians are fast increasing" be because the population is increasing?

Yes, my definition of what is the right path may not mirror others, but mine definitely is the right one.... If you don't believe that, then I guess all my boards about saying no to drugs, teen sex, abortion and cussing are USELESS??? *sighs* Going to the right path means avoiding evil at all times.

And hmmm.. the increase of lebians and gays is not due to the increasing population. It is due to the increasing belief that this lifestyle is proper and that it is ok to indulge in such things. The years may go on, there would always be an increase to population, but increase in gays or lesbians???? does that mean straight guys and straight girls are tired of being straight??? if that is true, then I pity the downfall of humnkind. Not only does it mock God and the creation of humans as man and woman only, it definitely will spread and spread and before you know it, all of us would be gays and lesbians. The problem with most people is that they tend to tolerate TOO MUCH. Even if they themselves don't like cussing, to them it is ok because they are afraid tht they might be left out or that they might make enemies. Or whatever.

We all have choices to do lots of things that we don't do. We do have the option of celibacy, but we don't practice that.

Alledgedly it would matter because people wouldn't be able to reproduce as suddenly everyone would become gay, and our population of only 7 billion would be in danger of declining even more, making us an endangered speicies. society would hurtle towards it's downfall as children raised by same sex couples would grow up scard and confused, and everyone would get AIDS and die, then get punished by Jesus when he comes back to check on us, and then be tortured in hell.

I'm honestly not trying to act the part of a fool, but I'm just wondering;

Why would it even matter if being gay was a choice? Wouldn't that be the person's own choice to make?

Just wondering what input you have on that, cause it was something that a person brought up in one of my classes today.

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don't you dare post some website about them being witches or pagans or something because may i remind you that i can find anything on the internet.

Don't you dare think we can't prove you wrong. And don't you dare think that witches and pagans are evil.

Fool.

And that's an understatement.

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and the truth is that if you do your own research outside of school you will find that our founding fathers were Christians and they would be shocked to see what is being done to their naiton, don't you dare post some website about them being witches or pagans or something because may i remind you that i can find anything on the internet.

Then do so and give us the sources EG and I asked for.

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i have noticed that every one here keeps comparing gay marriage to freeing black slaves or interratial marriage, you must realze that they are not the same thing.

Not the same as unequal rights?

Right. Not the same as slavery.

But similar (if not same) to interracial couples marrying because it's the same concept; two people who love each other and want to get married.