i have noticed that every one here keeps comparing gay marriage to freeing black slaves or interratial marriage, you must realze that they are not the same thing.
"..If we prayed ...then maybe kids in school could pray and unborn children see light of day."- Casting Crowns
American-- You keep saying that what homosexuals are doing is wrong but what makes us think that what were doing isn't? I don't choose to be hetero and I don't think that they choose to be homo and it is quite ignorant to think that they do. I am not attracted to women, I have no desires of being with one and because of that I won't. People don't just wake up one morning and think to themselfs " I think Im gonna be gay, that seems like fun and a nice way to rebel" I don't think anyone chooses to be gay. Gay people obviously love eachother enought to want the same rights as heteros have, if they didn't then this wouldn't be a fighting debate. You may feel that they are wrong but really they aren't, they just fall in love the same as anyone else and deserve the chance to honor that love. By denying them their rights to this and saying that they are wrong is completely discriminate and wrong. I mean if gays shouldn't be able to marry maybe interracials should be able to marry either. ( Im not actually against it, just making a point)
"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
earhtgoddess, for starters it mentions in the Bible that the earth is not flat, it just took your precious scientists a long time to figure that out. there is a difference in studying the Bible and just reading it, certain pawwages were not written to us,and some were changed after Christ came. i never said that i hated gays, i really don't but i do believe that they need to re-think what they are doing. and the truth is that if you do your own research outside of school you will find that our founding fathers were Christians and they would be shocked to see what is being done to their naiton, don't you dare post some website about them being witches or pagans or something because may i remind you that i can find anything on the internet.
"..If we prayed ...then maybe kids in school could pray and unborn children see light of day."- Casting Crowns
If you beleive in it to the point that you think it's a good idea to deny people rights because the bible says so, is ignorance. Or stupidity. Whatever.
I agree. The bible tells us to be loving and not to judge which is exactly what they are doing to homosexuals. Being gay effects nobody but the ones that are gay. If someone don't agree with it then it's more of a personal problem then anything. Saying that being homo is wrong and is a sin is discrimination which is another thing that the bible is against. It many ways it seems to me that the bible contradicts itself. Im not saying that I don't believe in God but I do believe that the bible does posess alot of nonsense.
"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
Not everyone that trusts in the bible is ignorant and believes the same.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying that some people like Americangirl take the bible too literally and that makes them ignorant. If you beleive in the bible, great. If you beleive in it to the point that you think it's a good idea to deny people rights because the bible says so, is ignorance. Or stupidity. Whatever.
I have read the bible, my dear, and that is why I am no longer a christian. If I had taken the bible as literally as you do, I would be just as ignorant.
Not everyone that trusts in the bible is ignorant and believes the same. Which is what I assume you were getting at.
"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
you should read the Bible for yourself before posting it as the truth
I have read the bible, my dear, and that is why I am no longer a christian. If I had taken the bible as literally as you do, I would be just as ignorant.
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it is probably how you have been raised, i was raised the same way but i started thinking for myself.
I don't believe that. How in the name of Jehovah can you say you think for yourself when you turn around and show me a quote from the bible? You are obviously letting the bible do all your thinkiing. Of course I was raised to be tolerant, but I learned on my own all about homosexuality, like what causes it, if it can be cured, if it is moral, if gay people deserve rights or not, etc. I didn't look at the bible to find out these things. I turned to the wonderful world of science and psychology. Who told me to do that? No one. I completely thought for myself. No one shapes my opinions but me. Not even God.
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but everything that is on tv and even schools are now promoting homosexuality
If you don't like Queer Eye for the Straight Guy, don't friggin' watch it.
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it is very difficult when all of you are supporting somthing this wicked.
Well ****. I am SO sorry for sticking up for the rights of a minority that is currently experiencing unjust discrimination, hate and violence. I can't help that my best friend is gay and that I love him more than anything. I'm sorry that I'm trying to protect him from people spewing bible verses at him like you. I'm sorry that I don't want to see him hurt. I'm sorry we're not following YOUR religion. I'm sorry that I hate to see people like you influence children the wrong way and then see those children become bullys or murderers of gay people. I'm sorry for being so compassionate toward a people being wronged in so many ways.
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will you ever back down, even after i have proven you wrong?
You can not prove me wrong. I promise you this. I have argued homosexuality with several idiots on this site and won quite easily.
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the Bible is not outdated it is the supreme authority.
The Bible is completely outdated. It was written thousands of years ago by men who thought the Earth was flat, that the universe was geocentric, that mentally handicapped people were possessed by the devil and that anyone who thought otherwise were heretics who should be put to death. And I'll be damned, guess what proved those idiots wrong? Modern Science! The same science that says sexuality can not be helped and that homosexual feelings, though fairly rare, are a normal part of being human. I'm not saying that science is always one hundred percent right, I'm saying that the science of 2005 is really hard to dispute with a book written so long ago.
Your argument so far has been "It's wrong because the bible says so". No good. Get some sources. Make me look stupid, do something other than tell me that your imaginary friend (God) is against it.
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P.S. I love God. God loves acceptance. All gay people want is to be accepted. God loves everyone.
Do you love gay people, girl? God wants you to love everyone. I love gay people. I even love republicans, hard as it may seem.
Bushism of the day: "Then I went for a run with the other dog and just walked. And I started thinking about a lot of things. I was able to I can't remember what it was. Oh, the inaugural speech, started thinking through that." - George W. Bush, Pre-inaugural interview with U.S. News & World Report , Jan. 22, 2001 issue
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
if any of you have ever studied history you should realize that our nation was based on the Bible. Our founding fathers were all Christians, and when righting the Declaration of Independance the Bible was consulted frequently
THe founding fathers were not all christian.
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the Bible is not outdated it is the supreme authority. i know that i sin but i try not to. Gays in no way are trying to stop sinning. celtic, your right, i don't know you but i do realize that you will not back down that doesn't mean i am not going to stop trying to convince you.
So disciminating against blacks, holding slaves, selling your daughter, arranged marriages, etc. are all the correct thing to do then? If the bible isn't outdated, then we should do all those things.
And are you really trying to stop sinning? ar'tn y sopringfabrics of ixedteia.
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Bushism of the day: "Then I went for a run with the other dog and just walked. And I started thinking about a lot of things. I was able to I can't remember what it was. Oh, the inaugural speech, started thinking through that." - George W. Bush, Pre-inaugural interview with U.S. News & World Report , Jan. 22, 2001 issue
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
if any of you have ever studied history you should realize that our nation was based on the Bible. Our founding fathers were all Christians, and when righting the Declaration of Independance the Bible was consulted frequently
And now I want your source.
Girl, have you ever read the Bible in it's entirety?
when righting the Declaration of Independance the Bible was consulted frequently
Is this what they teach you at your big-ole' private school?
Bushism of the day: "Then I went for a run with the other dog and just walked. And I started thinking about a lot of things. I was able to I can't remember what it was. Oh, the inaugural speech, started thinking through that." - George W. Bush, Pre-inaugural interview with U.S. News & World Report , Jan. 22, 2001 issue
"If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated," p.60, "1984," by George Orwell
the Bible is not outdated it is the supreme authority. i know that i sin but i try not to. Gays in no way are trying to stop sinning. celtic, your right, i don't know you but i do realize that you will not back down that doesn't mean i am not going to stop trying to convince you. if any of you have ever studied history you should realize that our nation was based on the Bible. Our founding fathers were all Christians, and when righting the Declaration of Independance the Bible was consulted frequently
"..If we prayed ...then maybe kids in school could pray and unborn children see light of day."- Casting Crowns
"wicked" does not mean that it is a "worse" sin in God's eyes, but on my list of "wicked" things, sins that are hurting or killing people are on the top of my personal list. and if you claim to be a Christian i don't understand why you are supporting gay marriage
All sins are wicked. And as Christian, I also realize that not all rules from the bible can be followed. many are outdated, such as ones on homosexuality. You break plenty yourself.
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will you ever back down, even after i have proven you wrong?
You haven't proved anything except your ignorance. And the bible cannot be used to make laws. The united states is a secular nation. SO the bible cannot be used as a source for a law.
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