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Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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I feel so bad that a stupid punk was dumped because he had sex.


Live and Let Live. Love and Let Love.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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hey you can't hide who you are right?

I know I'm crazy as hell and I accept that and I am quite willing to share my insanity with others

besides all that the world is much more enjoyable when your crazy Smile


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haha sorry...I try hard not to sound like a raving , mad lunatic, but sometimes thats just no fun Smile


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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I've noticed Tovarich (comrade in russian)


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it's nice to wathc you fight with some else for once

har har har...I just got alot of rage

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I know what my avatar is, fag.

wow, no comment


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Lets take a look at your picture shall we?


I know what my avatar is, fag.
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it's nice to wathc you fight with some else for once


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Thank God!


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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Registered: December 20, 2004
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Like I said, I do know. Anyway, trust is for queers.[QUOTE]
Lets take a look at your picture shall we?


I'm confused... about life. and life hates me.
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Registered: January 15, 2003
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Dude. I'm too fucked up to care anymore.
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Well, technically I did. You said I don't know what it's like, and I went apeshit and made it a point to you that I do. What the fuck did you expect? If you did not want me to do that, you shouldn't have said it.

I don't expect much from people. In fact, I almost expect at least one person to be immature and start attacking me for no reason, it happens all the freakin time. This really doesn't come to me as a surprise. And, you made a point to me? Because I don't recall you making any point except for "I have bigger problems." ....Didn't want you to do what?

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It could ALWAYS be worse. My life could be worse. Everyone's life could always be worse. Which is why, to me, complaining about something as stupid as invasion of privacy or abuse, makes me look at you like you're weak. Suck it up. Whining will get you no where in the real world. No sympathy, no comfort, you get jack shit.


Again, if I really thought your opinion was worth a million dollars I would care. No fucking duh it could always be worse! What the hell is your point?! The only one on this board whining is you! Whining about the fact that you think this is stupid and somebody on here thinks your just trying to be bitch to get attention. If people want to ask a question that pertains to THEIR life, then I think they have the right to do that. And I believe this is a valid question. You may not, but, who the fuck do you think you are? Does everybody care what YOU think about them? Does everybody have to go to YOU to validate what they feel? I hope someday you realize that the world is NOT all about YOU.

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The world would be a better place if they did though. Kids would be less spoiled.


This board has nothing to do with spoiled children. It's a question on whether you think parents SHOULD read their kids personal stuff. Obviously they CAN and obviously they DO. But the issue is whether or not its a good move by them. So, if you have nothing to offer besides this drabble, then I suggest you start a new board called "Why I think my opinion is better than everybody else's."


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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You did, and you continue to piss me off.


Good, because I don't care.

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Yes, you were comparing problems


Well, technically I did. You said I don't know what it's like, and I went apeshit and made it a point to you that I do. What the fuck did you expect? If you did not want me to do that, you shouldn't have said it.

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You tell me that my life could be so much worse, but what the fuck do you know?


It could ALWAYS be worse. My life could be worse. Everyone's life could always be worse. Which is why, to me, complaining about something as stupid as invasion of privacy or abuse, makes me look at you like you're weak. Suck it up. Whining will get you no where in the real world. No sympathy, no comfort, you get jack shit.

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My life isn't all rainbows and candy canes, but I don't put other people's "problems" down just because I have "bigger problems."


You should.

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I assumed that you don't know what its like and if this isn't the case then prove me wrong, how do you know what it feels like to have a parent violate trust when you have never done anything to make them not trust you?


Like I said, I do know. Anyway, trust is for queers.

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Guess what? Not everybody is going to agree with your opinion alright? That's life, YOU get over it!


The world would be a better place if they did though. Kids would be less spoiled.
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EarthGoddess, you are being completely irrational ...why are you gettin so bent outta shape about this. No one is making this a big deal except for you.

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You should've fucking said so.

Let me repeat myself Mad "My relationship with my mom is an extremely touchy subject to me and what I have been through doesn't completely fit on this board or is something I am willing to talk about." Basically, I shouldn't have to do anything.

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I do NOT assume that at all. I'm saying it's stupid to assume it's terrible for a parent to be all up in your business. These kids are CHILDREN they don't make the rules, if their parents say no privacy THAT'S IT. GET OVET IT. Once they get their own place and pay their own bills, they can bitch about their privacy all they like.


Parents may make up the rules, but that doesn't mean that they are always correct. Parents are human, they can (and do) make mistakes when making up their so-called rules. Don't think that parents are infallible in everything they do. This issue may not be on the same level as child abuse (obviously), but who is comparing? What the *&^% is the point? It is a whole different dimension. If I started talking about little girls who stole make-up, why would someone start comparing it to armed robbery? The point is, neither are right. And I just think that parents should think twice before they do something that might jeopardize trust, especially b/c it is something that is irreplacable. But there is no point in arguing about this anymore, b/c we don't even know the whole story. Just some kid who's girlfriend broke up w/ him because her parents read her diary. I don't know anything else, so maybe there was a good reason to jeopardize her trust, i dunno. But, unless she gives them a good reason to be worried, then I find it wrong. That's why I was relating my situation. What happened to me might be completely different, but I'm just trying to offer my opinion.

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I do not care if I pissed you off or not. So don't even bring it up.


You did, and you continue to piss me off. The only point you have made is that there are bigger problems than invasion of privacy, and that is such an obvious statement, I wouldn't think it had to be brought up.


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I wasn't comparing problems, you told me I don't know what it's like so I fucking retaliated dipshit. What the hell did you expect? If you don't want people to do that, DON'T FUCKING SAY IT. And yes, as long as you under 18, it's right. That's life.


Yes, you were comparing problems...even worse, you went completely psycho when I tried relating my experiences to this post. You told me to get over it. Whats the point of that? Except to piss me off. You tell me that my life could be so much worse, but what the fuck do you know? You base my life off of one post I make about one thing that happened to me? My life isn't all rainbows and candy canes, but I don't put other people's "problems" down just because I have "bigger problems."
And i never assumed you have nothing going on in your life. I assumed that you don't know what its like and if this isn't the case then prove me wrong, how do you know what it feels like to have a parent violate trust when you have never done anything to make them not trust you? From the way you talk, it doesn't seem like you understand this too well.

But most importantly, here's what you are assuming: That just because you think parents reading their kid's diaries is stupid that everyone else should think so as well. Guess what? Not everybody is going to agree with your opinion alright? That's life, YOU get over it!


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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Registered: May 07, 2003
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Finally someone who agrees that writing private stuff and securing it with a lock that can be opened with a bobby pin is silly.


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead **Vice President of the ITGHMC** http://tinyurl.com/393qnr
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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Furthermore...who really records all of the private and/or intimate details of their life in a diary?!

Pretty much anyone who has a diary.

Then I reccomend you follow the immortal maxim of "Don't commit to paper, that which you do not want known to others" the only place you can keep a secret is inside your skull


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Any parent-child relationship that lacks a degree of privacy on the child's part is a poor one.

And I sincerely hope no one jumps on my back for saying that.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Wow, maybe calm down a little?


Fuck no.

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And please don't assume that you know anything about my relationship with my mom because what I have just said is just the tip of the iceberg.


You should've fucking said so.

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You have absolutely no clue and it pisses me off that you assume that just because I am trying to be understanding to this person's situation, that I have nothing going on in my life that is worse.


I do NOT assume that at all. I'm saying it's stupid to assume it's terrible for a parent to be all up in your business. These kids are CHILDREN they don't make the rules, if their parents say no privacy THAT'S IT. GET OVET IT. Once they get their own place and pay their own bills, they can bitch about their privacy all they like.

I'm sorry but you provoked me by saying "You don't know what it's like", and it pissed ME off that YOU assume that I have nothing going on in MY life.


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The point of this board is not to discuss what could be worse in your life, it is to talk about whether or not you think this kind of "invasion of privacy" is right.


I wasn't comparing problems, you told me I don't know what it's like so I fucking retaliated dipshit. What the hell did you expect? If you don't want people to do that, DON'T FUCKING SAY IT. And yes, as long as you under 18, it's right. That's life.

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So, I'd appreciate it if you would shut your mouth and stop telling me to get over things and offer something a little bit more valuable to this whole conversation. Because basically all you have really done is succeeded in pissing me off.


I do not care if I pissed you off or not. So don't even bring it up.

I'm sorry, but this is like when my mom orders food at a restaurant and the food is slightly cold, and complains. I'm like "Mom, there are people in the world that would kill for that cold food on your plate." But of course she gets mad and tells me to shut up. These kids have no reason to complain about anything, they don't deserve sympathy (don't get me, wrong I don't deserve it either). They're just being spoiled, ungrateful brats that expect too damn much from their parents.
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Originally posted by Meagan87:
Maybe I am just a naive prude, but my diary is full of interesting moments in my life that I never want to forget. It's not a place where I store confidential details that I don't want anyone else to know. Assuming that no one else will ever come across it is just plain stupid.


Well, lemme put it this way...I had a "diary" when I was in like 6th grade and I wouldn't usually write in it that often. But, there were occasions when maybe I was infuriated with one of my good friends and needed to vent. So, I would end up writing whatever about how I felt and so on and so forth. The thing is, I wouldn't want my friend to actually read it considering she would probably end up hating me or something. It wouldn't be that I have something to hide, it's just that diaries aren't exactly a valid way to judge someone. Haven't you ever seen Bridget Jone's Diary? (or read it for that matter)... maybe this isn't the case for everyone, but many people write things in diaries expecting no one else to read them. Not everything in there is going to be rational thought, just rampant emotions and feelings...and that's not always appealing to parents, if you get my drift.

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I've said it before and I will say it again. If parents are held liable if their kids go off and do stupid things, then they have the right to know exactly what is going on in their kids' lives...

Yes, but it's the way they go about it is the real issue.


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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Maybe I am just a naive prude, but my diary is full of interesting moments in my life that I never want to forget. It's not a place where I store confidential details that I don't want anyone else to know. Assuming that no one else will ever come across it is just plain stupid.

I've said it before and I will say it again. If parents are held liable if their kids go off and do stupid things, then they have the right to know exactly what is going on in their kids' lives...


"Never doubt that a small group of committed people can change the world. Indeed it is the only thing that ever has." --Margaret Mead **Vice President of the ITGHMC** http://tinyurl.com/393qnr
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I don't know what it's like? Oh yeah, you're the only one with problems... I said get over it, because there are far, FAR worse things that your parents could have done to you, like they've done to me. And like what my sister has done to me. I don't trust my father, I never speak to him even though we live in the same house, I'm terrified of him, and it has nothing to do with anything as FRIVILOUS as him invading my privacy. All I'm saying is that it could be much worse, and you should be SO fucking happy that it isn't. You should be happy that your mom does something as lame and annoying as spying. You should be happy she cares at all about what happens in your life


Wow, maybe calm down a little? I'm not putting people's problems on different levels here. I'm offering some advice, especially since I have had an experience somewhat like this. And please don't assume that you know anything about my relationship with my mom because what I have just said is just the tip of the iceberg. I MOST DEFINETLY have bigger problems than this, and it's not like I'm making a bit fit about it. You have absolutely no clue and it pisses me off that you assume that just because I am trying to be understanding to this person's situation, that I have nothing going on in my life that is worse. My relationship with my mom is an extremely touchy subject to me and what I have been through doesn't completely fit on this board or is something I am willing to talk about.

So, YES, invading privacy isn't the biggest problem in the entire world, but NO, I don't think that that makes it ok. The point of this board is not to discuss what could be worse in your life, it is to talk about whether or not you think this kind of "invasion of privacy" is right. Therefore, I am entitled to my opinion, as well as you are to yours. So, I'd appreciate it if you would shut your mouth and stop telling me to get over things and offer something a little bit more valuable to this whole conversation. Because basically all you have really done is succeeded in pissing me off.


"The story of my life. I always get the fuzzy end of the lollipop."
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