i'm talking about lolicon/shotacon...it's sickening..

basically lolicon is animation that involves underage girls in sexual interaction with older men, while shotacon is the same with boys.

while it's illegal in america and other countries, some countries still allow it like japan.

i just totally find it disgusting, even if it's animated.

Hye Pirate_Pimp,
Thanks for crawling out of your hole to poorly revive an old post we've pretty much already settled. Thus your opinions are not needed. In fact if you had read the other posts you'd see that you're wrong.

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Therefore, the people who would prefer child porn are pedophiles.

Okay, fine. Child molesters, then. Watching child porn does not make you a child molester.

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I don't know about you but I suffer some pretty severe consequences if I stop eating food.

So food was a bad example. It was never meant to be anything other than funny.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Healthy people who watch child porn are satisfied just watching it, just as healthy people who eat food aren't addicted to it.

I don't know about you but I suffer some pretty severe consequences if I stop eating food.

I honestly hope someone in here is using sarcasm, or 'taunting the noob' or something like that because otherwise I've just read some strange arguments. Leading the pack is:

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Healthy people who watch child porn are satisfied just watching it, just as healthy people who eat food aren't addicted to it.

Child porn does not make someone a pedophile. The two are not interlinked.

Sorry, clpo, but...

[dictionary] pedophilia n: sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object [/dictionary]
(Merriam Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictionary)

Therefore, the people who would prefer child porn are pedophiles.

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does [porn] make you want to have sex less?

Nope. Zest is right about that. There is more than one 'outlet' for sexual urges, least of which is porn. Just because someone has the urge or whatever doesn't mean it should be obeyed.

Say what you like about 'repression' but we as civilized humans repress every day whether or not we like it. That includes sexual urges.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
just as healthy people who eat food aren't addicted to it.

LOL

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If you watch this stuff for pleasure you clearly already have an issue with lust towards children.

This is a problem?

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they certainly encourage those who are already on the path.

How does that make it any worse than anything else? Anything could encourage a person on the road to addiction. That's like saying cigarette ads should be banned because they encourage people "already on the path" to cigarette addiction.

Your scenario is one of many. Not all people who watch child porn go on to commit crimes. That's the underlying point here. It doesn't matter that some people get addicted and molest children because not all people do.

I'm assuming that anyone who watches child porn already has a problem.
You're assuming that normal, regular ppl are going to be watching this.
If you watch this stuff for pleasure you clearly already have an issue with lust towards children. This would then lead to the need of more stimulus eventually leading to the actual molestation of a child. though these films may not inherently turn someone into a pedophile, they certainly encourage those who are already on the path.

Think of it as an addiction alright? so these ppl watching are already having an issue with these urges towards children. they watch these films, it stimulates them more, they then need more hardocre films, and then even more hardcore to the point to where they are actually led to commit this crime as the only way to actually satisfy their urges. These films may not affect regular ppl becuase they are not dealing with this issue but they worsen those who are already dealing with this problem.

You're assuming that anyone who watches child porn goes out and molests children. That's not the case. Healthy people who watch child porn are satisfied just watching it, just as healthy people who eat food aren't addicted to it.

Child porn does not make someone a pedophile. The two are not interlinked.

I don't see ppl addicted to food traumatizing and abusing young children to satisfy their urges.

clpo we have to ban food! it's addictive!

i recomend you check up on japanese culture, the only reason they have such a thing for hentai is because their culture is sexually repressive, it's their outlet as you call it.

You can get addicted to anything: porn, alcohol, food. I don't see anyone banning food. Do you?

People need to stop seeing this as an outlet. when you watch porn is that an outlet? does it make you want to have sex less?

I didn't think so. Men who watch andi dare say those who draw/write these kinds of animation already have a problem and need help. If they're watching these things it will only fuel them more, they'll jus tend up wanting it more and more and eventually the animation isn't going to be good enough and they're going to step it up to get the same reaction. This isn't an outlet, it's an addiction.

no duh! I agree with speed.

if you find it sickening don't watch it.

the only way you can watch it is over the inet, that means you've been a naughty boy and a liar

Has it occurred to anyone that the Japanese find our judgmentalism and prudery at least as annoying as we find their animation?

In my opinion, whether its legal or not its going to exist, whether its legal or not people are going to watch. Is it right? Its really up to the individual to figure that out for themselves, it doesn't hurt anybody, but if you were watching it and felt that it was wrong, then you shouldn't do it. Sometimes people have to stop looking at the broader perspective of things and focus on the individual for once and stop arguing whether its right for other people ot do it or not, everybody has different moral standards, some people refuse to even watch porn altogether. And so I refuse to judge people, as long as they aren't hurting anybody what they do on their free time is up to them.

In my opinion, it's better to give someone a safe outlet. I don't enjoy, agree with, or condone animated child porn, but I'd sure as hell rather have someone looking at that than raping little kids. I think that there will always be some people who are driven to sexual acts with children on the basis of watching this stuff, but these people would probably find some other disgusting outlet anyways. Better to prevent the many.

They're drawings and animations. That's why I find nothing wrong with it. Drawings never hurt anyone. Drawings don't force people to act on them.

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how can you possibly justify that??

...the first amendment?