Did you know that if you shot and killed a pregnant women, it would be considered a double homicide. But if you go and get an abortion, which is killing a a helpless baby, then it perfectly legal.

I'm against abortion in most cases, except for things like rape and severally defected babies that would have no chance of a decent life.

Personally, I think that if women go out and have unsafe sex, then I think they need to accept the results of their actions. If you don't want to get pregnant, then use a condom or the pill. There are so many ways to prevent pregnancy, I can't see why people insit on using abortion as an option.

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Originally posted by soccergirl04:
Did you know that if you shot and killed a pregnant women, it would be considered a double homicide.

That actually depends on the state you live in. Not all states have that law. In any case, in the states that do, the woman must be murdered. If someone assaults her, and causes a miscarriage, s/he wont be charged with any kind of murder.

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But if you go and get an abortion, which is killing a a helpless baby, then it perfectly legal.

Abortion does not "kill" anything. It terminates a pregnancy. Nothing more, nothing less.

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I'm against abortion in most cases

So don't get one. Problem solved.

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except for things like rape and severally defected babies that would have no chance of a decent life.

Wait...So why are you for abortion for rape victims but not for a woman who had sex for pleasure? What happened to equality?

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Personally, I think that if women go out and have unsafe sex, then I think they need to accept the results of their actions.

Ok..I'm going to say this for the 56730 time now.
If someone is eating, and they did not chew properly, should we just let them die and "accept the results of their actions" I mean, it was their fault or not chewing properly in the first place, right?

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If you don't want to get pregnant, then use a condom or the pill.

If you don't want to choke, don't eat, if you don't want to drown, don't swim, if you don't want to get hit by a car, don't cross the street.

Oh, and FYI, 54% of women who obtained abortions used some sort of contraceptive.

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There are so many ways to prevent pregnancy

This is true.

But not all of them work.

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I can't see why people insit on using abortion as an option.

I can't see why pro-lifers insist on forcing women to give birth...

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Oh yeah, you're right. Children are soooo inconvenient. I can't beleive people would ctually have kids, I mean an abortion is soooo much easier.

Kids are the spawns of Satan. They screw up your entire body, then you're left with a miss-shaped vagina, a screaming thing with a loaded diaper that wakes you up in the deep slumber. Then, the child grows, becomes a teenager, demands the best of everything out there, drains your cash, goes to college (which is overly expensive in the US), and blah. You're nothing.

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But they aren't living human beings.

Who cares? Many humans are virtually useless, living off your taxes and doing nothing.

And you are merely an attention seeking miserable person. I'm pro-choice, but I can't imagen what could cause you to feel this way. You were born at one point. Or is that your real problem with the whole process?

Murder; it should be illegal

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Oh yeah, you're right. Children are soooo inconvenient. I can't beleive people would ctually have kids, I mean an abortion is soooo much easier.

Kids are the spawns of Satan. They screw up your entire body, then you're left with a miss-shaped vagina, a screaming thing with a loaded diaper that wakes you up in the deep slumber. Then, the child grows, becomes a teenager, demands the best of everything out there, drains your cash, goes to college (which is overly expensive in the US), and blah. You're nothing.

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But they aren't living human beings.

Who cares? Many humans are virtually useless, living off your taxes and doing nothing.

That's a good Pro-thought way of thinking there Clpo

I encourage all to be more Pro-thought!

Actually, not getting pregnant in the first place is easier. Duh. If you aren't smart enough to put on a condom or take the pill, you shouldn't be allowed an abortion.

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if they don't have an abortion, they end up with a child that puts their body through hell.

Oh yeah, you're right. Children are soooo inconvenient. I can't beleive people would ctually have kids, I mean an abortion is soooo much easier.

I don't believe either. I don't believe its murder unless it's late-term abortion which happens to be illegal anyway. And I don't believe it should be used as a form of birth control either, thats unnecessary. There should be certain cases in which a mother is allowed to abort her child.

This is still going on? I thought it ended a while ago. Hmm I do hope you all realize that arguing abortion is about like praying for snow in Florida: Pointless. Nobody will ever agree or come to any conclusion. I'm a pro-lifer turned more towards Pro-thought. Something for all to consider.

That's different, BS. Abortion inflicts changes to their body and affects them if they didn't have one. There are no side effects of not molesting a child, or raping someone, or murdering someone. Nothing "bad" happens if they don't do one of those things where as if they don't have an abortion, they end up with a child that puts their body through hell.

So I suppose that if they think murder/rape/child molestation/etc. is right they should do it?

People have to do what they believe is right. Even though to others it might seem wrong.

Buzzzzzzzzzzz.

Wrong, they are. Go check out Red's response on the other abortion board.

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But they aren't living human beings.

Neither are fetuses. They're living masses of cells that will become humans, but they aren't humans in the womb. Interestingly enough, it's not even called a fetus until after the second month of gestation.

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well i'm glad all those americans weren't born then we would have a really really big population crisis.

Can you say Chairman of the Chinese Communist Party?

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birth control prevents a pregnancy from occuring while an abortion terminates a pregnancy.

IUD's sweep fertilized eggs off the wall of the uterus.

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Cancer tumours are also alive.

But they aren't living human beings.

I think that it's stupid and wrong for you to be able to have an abortion. It should be against the law. if you don't want it give it up.

First of all it's only double homicide if the woman could give birth to the baby and it would be alright (even if it was premature) so if a woman has only been pregnant for 5 months it doesn't count as a baby yet because it isn't fully developed.

Second of all, do you actually believe that all women who get pregnant had unprotected sex? Umm maybe you don't know this but birth control isn't exactly 100% effective not even the pill.
Abortion by the way isn't considered a option of birth control... birth control prevents a pregnancy from occuring while an abortion terminates a pregnancy.

Why do you say its a woman's fault if she gets pregnant? Um hello it takes two to tango and the man is just as responsible for the pregnancy as she is.

Its a good thing abortion is legal otherwise woman would be dying from illegal ones and what do those anti-choice shirts say again something about "this many americans were killed from 1972-2005" some crap about abortion or what not well i'm glad all those americans weren't born then we would have a really really big population crisis.

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Catholicism has already established the legitimacy of every sperm, but women can still menstruate. Hmm.. then again, I guess menstration is slightly painful, but it still happens. I suppose I could try to no masturbate anymore...

Oops.

So by the logic that zygotes and the like (i.e. sperm) are just as living as fetuses, ejaculation and menstruation should be made illegal if abortion is made illegal. I don't relish that thought.