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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6956
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quote: why am I a part of this world....why?
You tell me. quote: like any disease, we try to develope something to kill it....so lets do that....
You can't kill a mental disease. The most one can do is have it treated. Take Andrea Yates, for example. She drowned her five children. That's a serious mental problem, and there are many like her. It does no good to kill her; her disease needs to be treated. Sometimes pedophilia may be a sick fetish, and there should be jail time if one acts upon their urges. My point is that killing someone for something beyond their control is absurd. Reminds me of Hitler...
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Oh Yea, I'm not saying all this because I think it's PC.
I think this because I actually think it the right thing to do, it will help. However, I don't really know what is the difference between right or wrong nor do i know how to help so I will shut up and sit in the corner and sleep.
"Teddy get's a blanket and a book and goes to the corner and starts to read and falls alseep reading"
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Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Um, I'm not going to quote anyone here. Just going to state my views on this.
I do believe SOME criminals have the knowledge and brain power to know what they are exactly doing and what they are exactly getting themselves into. However, they probably know but they can't control doing what they know is wrong.
This is possible to happen to some criminals. They know what they are doing is wrong but they can't control it. I think those people need help and need to be locked up somewhere to get the help they need and probably never get out of there. Just for the protective of themselves and the people around them. We need to figure out why they need to do this wrong thing or things so we could know what makes them tick and try to be closer in figuring out why some criminals do what they do. We need to figure out what makes them not be able to control it so we could make them control it somehow.
Now there are SOME criminals who know what they are doing is wrong but they don't feel bad about it and they could control it but they don't want to.
I think we need to figure out why they do this and why they don't feel bad about it but I don't think they need help. However, they do need to be locked up in a jail that fits their crime for probably the rest of their live.
Now there are criminals who don't know what they are doing is wrong and they can't control it.
Those people need help too and we need to figure out why they don't understand what they do is wrong and why they can't be able to control it. But, I don't think they need to be in jail but they do need to go somewhere that also fits their crime.
I don't think we need to kill them because then we will never know why they do this and then there will be more and more people doing this and we would be lethargic as to why they do it. I think if we help them, we could be able to understand why they do this and prevent whatever they did from someone's else doing it again.
I think they should all be locked up somewhere where there's ONLY people who did the same or something close to the same thing as they did and just figure out WHY. I don't think they should ever come out because they might seem good and healthy in there but when they come out to society then they do what they use to do again. It's like they can't entirely come off of what they do. So they should be locked up for their whole rest of their life so they could keep them safe from themselves and the people around them.
However, if they are getting healthy and little by little they are getting better, I think they should live a normal as possible life. But, not with people who don't know what the criminal is all about and what they are capable of doing and without these people having protection from the criminals. I think they should live a normal life because you never know they are probably really getting better and it's only fair that they live a life because if they live a life being locked up somewhere then that could mess them up more.
However, this is all so hard. You know, the organization of the jails or places that fits every crime. Figuring out why they do the things they do. Trying to prevent others from doing the same thing or something even worse to other people or themselves. Trying to see if they don't really understand and can't control it or if they are just faking it to get out of a jail sentence or to be put to death. Trying to show people the death penalty is not the best way to solve this problem. Trying to make people like BillyO understand what people like me are trying to do. Just trying to solve this all.
So that's why I give up in trying and I'm asking for no one to quote me on what I said because I'm done with this and this is ONLY what one, little, stupid, unimportant girl thinks. Um I'm sorry, all that I wrote might not make sense. I am just feeling really sick right now and so I don't know if my writing is understandable or not.
Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: but none of you understand why they do what they and what they have is a disease
Riiiigggghhhtttt well in the perfect PC world maybe you can convince people like John Wayne Gacey he is just sick in the head and he should stop raping young men in prison. TREAT THESES PEOPLE!!! I'll treat them, like garbage, that is what they are...SCUM! like any disease, we try to develope something to kill it....so lets do that.... some of you need to watch the Demolition Man, it's about the perfect PC world where you aren't even allowed to swear, then one day a criminal comes along and almost takes over a whole city because everyone is too PC to stop him...... blah I hope none of you run the country cos' I'm moving if you do
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: Dahmer, would should have been in a mental hospital
you have some friggin' issues, that guy was a piece of garbage and I can't see why he didn't fry!!!!! MENTAL HOSPITOL!!!! why am I a part of this world....why?
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Registered: April 26, 2003
Posts: 82
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I agree with Gemini on this one. Someone who does pedophillia needs to get counselling and find out what the root of the problem is.
Peace, Silverstreak
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6956
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Pedophilia is a disease, just like alcoholism. It needs to be treated. Killing the person for a disease is ridiclous.
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Registered: December 30, 2001
Posts: 325
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quote: make them better....
Oh, please. People just get abused in prison. Dahmer, would should have been in a mental hospital, was murdered in prison just because some other ****edup person thought he murdered for racial issues (which he didn't). Pedophiles get it even worse in prison. It'll make them worse, not better. quote:
As for the criminals, I think the best punishment would be to keep them locked up in a small, dark room with nothing but a toilet, sink, and a shower faucet, fed bread and water every day, no mattress to sleep on or anything. The only times they are let out is to work, and I mean WORK. Maybe something agricultural to support our over-expanding population.
That's stupid. It'll never work. You kill one pedophile and ten others are born. Oh sure, you don't want to work at understanding the problem and trying to stop it, so kill them all. That's great. Why not kill all teen parents, drug users, murderers, rapists, theives, liers, pron stars, and anyone you don't agree with?
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Registered: March 30, 2003
Posts: 26
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you all understand that pedifiles are the lowest for of human beings i agree, but none of you understand why they do what they and what they have is a disease, an actual mental disease. they do put them in jail and they do cut off parts of their gentalia but if doesnt work. thats like sewing a smokers mouth shut, hey will get hole in their thoat and continue to smoke. pedifiles do anything they can. hel*l they'll go as far as molesting them with broom sticks, nothing stops them. i would love to see them all ball-less in prison for life too, but it doesn't work and thats why the courts don't do that. there is no cure. its a problem the other part of the population has to try and solve, unfortunetly. dont get me wrong, i would honestly love to see them all ball-less in prison for life.
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Registered: January 07, 2003
Posts: 41
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lol...
Um... going back to the topic(s?).... I can't look at anyone related to me like that...
As for the criminals, I think the best punishment would be to keep them locked up in a small, dark room with nothing but a toilet, sink, and a shower faucet, fed bread and water every day, no mattress to sleep on or anything. The only times they are let out is to work, and I mean WORK. Maybe something agricultural to support our over-expanding population.
As for the death penalty, they would be locked down where they can't move, and a mechanical gun (That is, no one pulls the trigger) would fire and kill them.
Not that I really advocate any of those things, but it's the harshest way to do it. What do you think?
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Fine I will..............
Dork
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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aight, be like that  grouch
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Um.........I'm not in the mood for this
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: I don't want anything anymore..............
now you were all happy to be able to discuss something, but you want to quit!! This is all apart of it, what is the right answer? I just think there is no reason to lock up maniacs who have like consecutive life sentances with other inmates. I would like the Death Penalty used....but hey.....if there is a better way.... anyway...I think we have strayed off topic
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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I don't want anything anymore..............
This porblem will never be fixed and that's the main point.
Why try? Nothing will change. People will keep on killing and all that stuff.
There's just no point.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: I bet you do but you are not above the law or enforce the laws so hint: you can't do anything. Don't it bite sometimes? You just want to take the law into your own hands but you can't
I know what you are saying about setting up prisons for this crime and that crime, and they are for the most part set up that way. Some prisons in NYC and LA have gang wings to keep rival gangs apart and so on. But there are too many people commiting crimes, there is not enough room in Jail. Crime has sky rocketed in the last 10 years...and I think it has alot to do with lack of fear, there is nothing to fear in prison for a real criminal. Now as for doing something about someone killing my GF. Prison has so many people it is literally a whole other civilization run by the black market. You can get anything in and out of prison and you would be surprised what a carton of cigarettes to the right person will buy you.... All I ask is that violent mass offenders who we know did the crime be eliminated. They know they will never get out, so there is no need for reform and then they ruin the lives of prisoners who might have a chance....do you see what I mean? quote: I really don't want them to be punished. No man should be able to punish another man, I just said that to get on Billy's good side.
see this is where people misunderstand the prison system, it is not suppose to be to punish, it is to reform.....make them better....is that not what you want?
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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All I want to do is understand them and figure out why they do what they do. I don't care if they knew what they were doing was wrong or not, if they were insane while doing it or sane while doing it. I don't care about any of that stuff. There's a reason why they do it, why they don't feel bad, there's a reason for them acting this way and that's what I want to figure out and try to help.
I really don't want them to be punished. No man should be able to punish another man, I just said that to get on Billy's good side.
I just want to understand and fix the problem. Not just punish them.
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Registered: December 19, 2002
Posts: 1704
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Criminals of all types should be punished. It shouldnt make a lick of difference that they "cant control it" infact that sort of person shouldnt even be allowed to live. How the hell does being insane justify anything? It doesnt.
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Registered: February 08, 2003
Posts: 1472
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man, that's sick. they must be crazy. children who has been through that kind of situation, they are afraid of people. and they are afraid to tell a adult.we must stop those ppl!
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Registered: December 30, 2001
Posts: 325
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Shutting people out won't help. That just makes them feel more alone and frustrated and they go back to the thing that makes them feel better- little children, purging, drugs, whatever. Killing the people, even after they're caught won't help either. Why not try to talk to them instead and try and find out what makes them tick, when they started, how to help catch others? That's what they do nowadays with serial killers- most of them KNOW what they're doing is wrong but feel they can't stop themselves. After they're caught, they want to help others get caught. quote: Now for a person who knows what they did and doesn't feel any remorse over it. I honestly don't know what to do with those people. I want those kinds of people to be punish badly and to be locked up.
That's sad. I saw a documentry on pyschopaths and... dorgot the other pyschosomething. It was on the two types of serial murders, but it could apply to most people who commit crime. Some don't realise what they're doing is wrong, likethey hear the voice of god telling them to do it, and some know it's wrong and don't care. After seeing the movie I looked on the internet and found horrible cases, stuff like an eight year old pushing a four year old friend into a pool and then not being bothered by it, stuff like that. Little kids. Do you really want them to be tortured instead of trying to understand?
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