because you know what? This is my first real online conversation on here. I mean when I post something usually people agree with me and it things are left as that. They say, " I agree with Teddy" and then they go to the person who they think is the ignorant, arrogant, idiotic one and they post to them and I am left out of the conversation. But NOW you don't agree with me. That is so great so we could have a conversation back and forth and you will NEVER agree with me.

But the difference between this conversation and the others is that I don't think your an ignorant, arrogant, idiotic, fool and I hope you don't for me either and I respect your feelings for this and I'm not going to get in a argument with you. I want to have a conversation because I never had one on here before. Cool Huh?

Oh Man I think I have gone insane. After reading this post I made, the conversation will stop.

Bye N Have a nice day

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ok but fix it how? I mean there is no changing a human mind or genetics. so what will we put a chip in their head? I can't wait to see the liberals get a hold of that one.

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Well, if this person is someone who did something that they didn't know was wrong or couldn't control. I think we should figure out what makes them do this and when we do, prevent that from happening again to someone else so that person won't do the same thing as they did.

Now for a person who knows what they did and doesn't feel any remorse over it. I honestly don't know what to do with those people. I want those kinds of people to be punish badly and to be locked up.

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Honestly I don't really consider these people human, and it breaks down to economics to me. Why should I pay to keep these people alive or in a hospital, and you and I do through our taxes. You sound like my GF, she wants them to suffer. Honestly, unless they get into maximum security prisons, prison is a joke. Most molestors and rapists do not go to maximum security. The ones that do make it to maximum security are killed anyway, even prisoners hate these people.

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If some guy rapes, murders and eats my GF, and does not get the Death Penalty, I will do everything I can to enforce my own vengance. So now instead of my GF dying, the one who did it dying...I have to die to...and I will...because even I can not imagine what I would do to that person. And why put these guys in prison with people who have commit small time crimes?? These are sick people and will most likely affect somebody who just commit one to many traffic violations.

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I think the whole prison solution should be more organized. I mean the person who committed a crime should go to a certain prison to fit that certain crime they commited.
Examples:
1 Like if someone killed all these people because of multipliable personalties and they couldn't control it, I think those people deserve to go to a hospital type of prison.
2 if someone committed smalltime crimes then they should go to an regular prison
3 if someone's eat people's brains and they know what they are doing is wrong then they should go to a prison to encounter server punishment.
and so on.

It probably will take a while to organize every prison/hospital and it might take some time to figure out who should go where and if they should stay there for their rest of their lives but I don't know, that's all I could think of.

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Now you talk of suffering, I have some interesting ideas for the Death Penalty

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I bet you do but you are not above the law or enforce the laws so hint: you can't do anything. Don't it bite sometimes? You just want to take the law into your own hands but you can't

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But serious have you ever heard of the Scared Staright Program? They take bad kids to a prison to speak with inmates, and the inmates are down right raw, saying stuff like oh I'll make you my b i t c h and stuff like that. Now of the gang members I know who have been locked up for whatever, always have this to say....at least I get to see all my boys again. What if it wasn't like that, what if when you shot at people, you knew you were going to die, you wern't going to get 3 meals a day, a gym to use, free TV, pool tables and yes even drugs.....would you still shoot at people. I don't think these people fear the justice system, in the city I am in, a gang member was testifying against his gang for a murder. He was on his way in the freakin' court house and two guys ran up, put him on his knees and shot him in the back of the head, does that sound like they were afraid of jail???

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Now who say I want people in that certain kind of jail? I'm not talking about that kind of jail. Go to one of the jails I've been to, it's scary, it isn't pretty.

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The Death Penalty will scare them straight

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To Me: It's too easy!!!!!!!!!!

Bye N Have a nice day

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Now who said it will take 20 years? I'm talking about now too. The faster someone figures out what is the cause of this, the faster we could figure out something to fix it.

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ok but fix it how? I mean there is no changing a human mind or genetics. so what will we put a chip in their head? I can't wait to see the liberals get a hold of that one.

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Either way if they are really sick or they know what they did was wrong but they did it anyways, they still get locked up. Either they stay in jail or go to a hospital. That's fine by me, if they are away from people, that's all that matters to me. I don't care for the Death Penalty, it's too easy of a break for them.

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Honestly I don't really consider these people human, and it breaks down to economics to me. Why should I pay to keep these people alive or in a hospitol, and you and I do through our taxes. You sound like my GF, she wants them to suffer. Honestly, unless they get into maximum security prisons, prison is a joke. Most molestors and rapists do not go to maximum security. The ones that do make it to maximum security are killed anyway, even prisoners hate these people.

If some guy rapes, murders and eats my GF, and does not get the Death Penalty, I will do everything I can to enforce my own vengance. So now instead of my GF dying, the one who did it dying...I have to die to...and I will...because even I can not imagine what I would do to that person. And why put these guys in prison with people who have commit small time crimes?? These are sick people and will most likely affect somebody who just commit one to many traffic violations.

Now you talk of suffering, I have some interesting ideas for the Death Penalty

But serious have you ever heard of the Scared Staright Program? They take bad kids to a prison to speak with inmates, and the inmates are down right raw, saying stuff like oh I'll make you my b i t c h and stuff like that. Now of the gang members I know who have been locked up for whatever, always have this to say....at least I get to see all my boys again. What if it wasn't like that, what if when you shot at people, you knew you were going to die, you wern't going to get 3 meals a day, a gym to use, free TV, pool tables and yes even drugs.....would you still shoot at people. I don't think these people fear the justice system, in the city I am in, a gang member was testifying against his gang for a murder. He was on his way in the freakin' court house and two guys ran up, put him on his knees and shot him in the back of the head, does that sound like they were afraid of jail???

The Death Penalty will scare them straight..

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how? I will agree with you, in the long run years from now understanding these things may make a change, but I don't care about 20 years from now, I care about now.

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Now who said it will take 20 years? I'm talking about now too. The faster someone figures out what is the cause of this, the faster we could figure out something to fix it.

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I also feel it is an escape, people who do these things know they are wrong, in most cases. By saying they are sick and need help is an escape from excepting responsibility. And an escape from a prison sentance or the Death Penalty. If people can just write it off as oh I'm sick I don't know what I'm doing and never have to face the resposibility themselves, do they ever think what they did is wrong?

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Either way if they are really sick or they know what they did was wrong but they did it anyways, they still get locked up. Either they stay in jail or go to a hospital. That's fine by me, if they are away from people, that's all that matters to me. I don't care for the Death Penalty, it's too easy of a break for them.

I want them to be punished if they are really doing this with a sane mind or actually be helped if they are doing this with an insane mind.

However, the bad part about that is you don't know who is really insane and who is faking being insane. So that's why I think they all should be locked up somewhere maybe not exactly a jail nor a hospital but somewhere.

Bye N Have a nice day

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I might figure out how to stop it from other people doing it again.

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how? I will agree with you, in the long run years from now understanding these things may make a change, but I don't care about 20 years from now, I care about now.

I also feel it is an escape, people who do these things know they are wrong, in most cases. By saying they are sick and need help is an escape from excepting responsibility. And an escape from a prison sentance or the Death Penalty. If people can just write it off as oh I'm sick I don't know what I'm doing and never have to face the resposibility themselves, do they ever think what they did is wrong?

I am always wondering why they do it...........

So maybe if I understand them I might figure out how to stop it from other people doing it again.


Bye N Have a nice day

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well, I guess there's no use trying to talk to you, then. This world will never get anywhere if people don't even try to understand each other.

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I may be a little harsh, my girlfriend majors in psyc and we have the same discussion all the time.
I am just not interested in knowing why people rape little kids or why they want to eat human flesh, I just want it to not happen anymore. And to me understanding it from the psycho mind, doesn't do me any justice....I really don't want to know why they do it, it disgusts me! Everyone in this country wants to sit around and talk about everything....talk is cheap.

well, I guess there's no use trying to talk to you, then. This world will never get anywhere if people don't even try to understand each other.

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Most people who commit rape or incest are either people who were never told it's wrong, or people who've been abused themselves.

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I disagree, I can think of plenty of cases where there was no history of abuse.


Bottom line I do not want to help these type of people, they are a waste and make me want to vomit!

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Anyone ever have a little cousin who has been infatuated with you? I have, I had a little cousin who followed me everywhere. She was my cousin, I cared very much for her and was very nice to her. Well her infatuation turned into a crush I guess. She used to hang off me and try to kiss me. But she was a little girl and she doesn't understand this is wrong and I am a part of her family, no I wouldn't want to put her to death.

However some guy who rapes his daughter on camera and sells the videos on the internet should be put to death without a thought.

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That's exactly what I mean, though.
Most people who commit rape or incest are either people who were never told it's wrong, or people who've been abused themselves. I went to the kindergarden with my friend to voleunter and we talked about how cute and good-looking soem of those kids were. I'd never consider having sex with them, and if I did I'd talk to a pyscholist or somethign about it, but with the additude towards pedophiles these days is it really a surprise people aren't in a hurry to talk about it? It's an urge, like using drugs or having sex with anybody is. I'm not saying it's right of course, I don't want people twisting my words around. But we as people always have urges, some are more twisted than others. And like drug users and people with food disorders are usualyl split into those that asked for helped and got out of it, I think this is pretty much the same.

i've never talked to anyone who's commited incest, but that's what I think. It ties in with what I've researhed about serial killers, but I realize it's two different things. I should research this, methinks.

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I don't think marrying your cousin is against the law.

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I'm not sure of exact law, but I know you are allowed to marry your 3rd cousin and nobody asks any questions....in the USA anyway.

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it's sort of when your love gets mixed up. I mean, a lot of people do it sometimes, but they get over it.

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Anyone ever have a little cousin who has been infatuated with you? I have, I had a little cousin who followed me everywhere. She was my cousin, I cared very much for her and was very nice to her. Well her infatuation turned into a crush I guess. She used to hang off me and try to kiss me. But she was a little girl and she doesn't understand this is wrong and I am a part of her family, no I wouldn't want to put her to death.

However some guy who rapes his daughter on camera and sells the videos on the internet should be put to death without a thought. When you are an adult, you know right from wrong, anyone who says they need help is lying just to keep from going to prison. And even if you don't support the Death Penalty, at least I am happy to know some prison inmates do....especially for Pedophiles. Pedophiles do not last very long in Prison.

Maybe this is a strage, freaky idea, but how about trying to understnad and top the problem instead of killing everyone you don't agree with?
I'm not for incest, but I think (not sure) it's sort of when your love gets mixed up. I mean, a lot of people do it sometimes, but they get over it. Perhaps they just don't. I mean, when you give birth to a child you're supposed to love it more than anything and think it's perfect and so on. You don't want to hurt your child, you just want to show some love.
Not the most logical of thinking, but by shutting people who think liek this out and making them feel even worse, how can they get help?
::thinks about The Unsaid, which she say on Friday and Sunday::

I'm not entirely clear, but I don't think marrying your cousin is against the law. Maybe it's not against the law in Britain because so many of the royal family married their cousins and whatnot.

Seems kind of sick to me though. I'm not SURE it isn't against the law, so don't quote me on it…

Bex

I specifically meant that incest is more of a problem now then it was 300 years ago. Royal dynasties sometimes had children with close realitives, but most of the time the male heir would mary a female from another dynasty and conjoin two kingdoms.

Answer to jstar's question: That would be incest. Incest is sexual relation with a realitive: cousins, uncles, etc. included.

More prevalent? Unless you just mean that more attention is being paid to this, then I disagree.

Remember all the disorders in royal families due to inbreeding and incest? Also, populations were much smaller way back when...so people had less to choose from, and often ended up marrying their brothers, or sisters.

Question: is sex w/ a cousin considered incest, or just immediate family?

It's wrong, but it's obviously becoming more prevalent.

dumarse, stop spamming.

I think its nasty. But apparently some other people dont.

Have you ever heard the saying incest is the best so put your sister to the test?

look at a case of child rape or child abuse. Most often (not always) the "agressor" if you will, is a family member. It is a sick and sad situation for the children involved.