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Originally posted by Aguagon:

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Originally posted by KroNikChrIstian:
so simple solution to a simple problem.
dont have sex you wont need to kill babies

This is true. Also, if we didn't have cars, we wouldn't have car wrecks. If we didn't have alcohol, we wouldn't have drunk drivers. If we didn't have religion, we wouldn't have holy wars.

Sex is a natural part of life, and going around trying to convince people not to have it is just not going to work. The benefits of sex go beyond selfish and immediate pleasure: mounting studies are revealing that couples who frequently engage in safe sex are happier and both mentally and physically healthier. Cake, on the other hand, just makes you fat. There's an element of risk involved with sex, and people should do all they can to maximize their preparedness and be ready to deal with the physical and emotional consequences (read: not have it when they're fourteen and think they've got the world figured out), but even if all the right precautions are taken, accidents will occur.

"Just don't have sex" is an extreme and unpractical stance. What about the long-term couples who don't want children? Should they be virgins for life?

yay, sensibility!

animals have sex - people are animals


we shouldn't have men, they make women pregnant!
hey, I like that!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Maya:
so since there are so many "abortion is wrong/murder" threads I thought I'd start one that's not only pro-choice but pro-killing babies! so discuss! and if you're against abortion piss off, you already have a ton of threads dedicated to discussing why abortion is evil, this is to discuss why it's great![/QUO
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abortion IS great!!! If you get knocked up when ur thirteen, GREAT! You don't hafta have kids!

oh and you aren't killing people, ur killin fetuses which at the time of abortion are more like overlarge parasites.

I see what you're saying. Too many people don't understand that there are consequences since they think they have an easy out.

However, a better solution than eliminating sex would be to educate people about the risks and how they can avoid them. For instance, to prevent STDs, use a condom. To prevent pregnancy, use the pill. Unfortunately, people don't always know about these options, so they have unsafe, unprotected sex. They end up getting pregnant, see that they can just get an abortion, and that's that. Ironically, it's abstinence-only education that causes this. Instead of being properly educated about the ways to practice safe sex, people are just told not to have sex at all. Clearly, this won't happen (we're humans; we don't follow instructions), so people go out and have sex anyways, not knowing the ways they can prevent pregnancies and, by proxy, abortions.

In short: good sex education = less pregnancies = less abortions. And it's a lot more reasonable to expect people to put on a condom than it is to expect them to keep their pants on.

thats not what im saying at all im not saying dont have sex
but if u do have sex be prepared for the consequances...ie pregnancy. pregnancy occurs from the act of sexual intercourse
you dont want pregnancy, only one way to prevent that
no abortion is not a contraceptive.
which is what it will become if people have their way. oh its ok for me to have sex cuz i can always have an abortion!!!! a long term couple who doesnt want to have a child doesnt have to refrain from sex. have the male get a vasectomy for crying out loud. there are other measures to take besides scraping your unborn child out of your body. it all boils down to this
abortion is unneeded. if u dont want a child dont have sex. if you want to be in a sexual relationship take precautions, vasectomy, hysterectomy, condoms, etc
you want my recomendation just have the guy get a vasectomy its reversible, minimally intrusive, and its an outpatient surgery. there are other alternatives

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Originally posted by KroNikChrIstian:
so simple solution to a simple problem.
dont have sex you wont need to kill babies

This is true. Also, if we didn't have cars, we wouldn't have car wrecks. If we didn't have alcohol, we wouldn't have drunk drivers. If we didn't have religion, we wouldn't have holy wars.

Sex is a natural part of life, and going around trying to convince people not to have it is just not going to work. The benefits of sex go beyond selfish and immediate pleasure: mounting studies are revealing that couples who frequently engage in safe sex are happier and both mentally and physically healthier. Cake, on the other hand, just makes you fat. There's an element of risk involved with sex, and people should do all they can to maximize their preparedness and be ready to deal with the physical and emotional consequences (read: not have it when they're fourteen and think they've got the world figured out), but even if all the right precautions are taken, accidents will occur.

"Just don't have sex" is an extreme and unpractical stance. What about the long-term couples who don't want children? Should they be virgins for life?

i think you all are missing the point. its not just whether or not abortion is wrong but whether or not its necessary. abortion is for unwanted pregnancies. lets disect that shall we (no pun intended) unwanted- you dont want it
pregnancy-the term during which a female carrys a fetus in their body, is preceded by sexual intercourse.
if you dont want a pregnancy. DONT HAVE SEX. now i realize that this post is going to get flamed majorly with things such as "but i like sex", and "you just dont know what its like to have all this pressure", and my favorite "you just have never had sex so you dont know what your missing". first of all i will address them ahead of time that way i can save you breath and me time reading your useless posts. #1 i like cake but i can refrain from eating it. if you have that small of an amount of will power that you HAVE to have sex just cuz u like it then i pity you. #2 i do know what its like to have all that pressure as im sure you are aware pressure is not solely targed towards you. and #3 yes i do know what it is like as i have had sex before but i have taken a vow of purity and am abstaining from further sex until i am married.

so simple solution to a simple problem.
dont have sex you wont need to kill babies

i understand that there are people out there who have been raped and have a child from it but that doesnt require abortion either. contrary to popular belief not all foster families rape and beat their kids i should know i have had 14 throughout my life. anyways i just thought i would give my opinion
flame away.... it wont help

I see sarcasm is lost on you.

So quick question: Why are you so excited about it? The excitement is shown through your use of exclamation marks... I mean, I understand that people like it, or are for it or whatever, but to be so...joyous that you get to kill?

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Mocking a serious issue hardly seems funny. I don't care if you're pro- or anti-abortion/life/whatever-you-want-to-call-yourself, this thread is pretty sick.

If she hadn't put that title on the thread, would you have looked at it? Probably not. She is telling us her opinion, which happens to be based on some very solid ground. Regardless of your opinion, you have to except that we who support abortion (as something sadly needed) also have opinions and these should also be considered. As sad as it is, a baby isn't among the land of the living until it can breathe. That is my personal opinion, even if you don't like it.

I don't like abortion but it's better then going to a foreign country and getting one their causing the mom and the baby death like i said i don't like it but i dont disagree

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Mocking a serious issue hardly seems funny.

It's funny because it annoys people. It may not be your sense of humor, but that just means you're the target audience.

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Originally posted by Maya:
Okay...I guess it´s time I clear this up before anyone else takes this stupid thread seriously and tells me I am going to hell, I´m sick and twisted or anything else(not that it really bothers me...but that´s besides the point).

THIS IS NOT A SERIOUS THEAD. I still can´t quite comprehend how some of you didn´t get that to begin with. I am pro-choice(call it pro-abortion if you want, I couldn´t care less) and at the time I started this stupid thing I was simply trying to make a point. (Well okay... I was also trying to piss some of you off). So there. Now you know.

Mocking a serious issue hardly seems funny. I don't care if you're pro- or anti-abortion/life/whatever-you-want-to-call-yourself, this thread is pretty sick. You say you're trying to make a point, but I'll be buggered if I can see it. This is a fairly offensive thread in my eyes, and if you didn't expect to come under fire, then you're a bit of an idiot.

This site puts a lot of angry, loud people who want to yell into a "room" together. So we all yell at whoever disagrees wtih us, and you just happened to be a great target because of this thread.

Yeah, but Maya, despite all logic, people love responding to a troll!

Okay...I guess it´s time I clear this up before anyone else takes this stupid thread seriously and tells me I am going to hell, I´m sick and twisted or anything else(not that it really bothers me...but that´s besides the point).

THIS IS NOT A SERIOUS THEAD. I still can´t quite comprehend how some of you didn´t get that to begin with. I am pro-choice(call it pro-abortion if you want, I couldn´t care less) and at the time I started this stupid thing I was simply trying to make a point. (Well okay... I was also trying to piss some of you off). So there. Now you know.

Abortion is a good thing in a lot of ways for a lot of people. I wouldn't say that I enjoy the thought of killing babies as you seem to, but I have to support for the good of the world and its ever increasing population.

Yes I guess I am just seriously sick and twisted...oh my what are you going to do?

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Originally posted by Maya:
I thought I'd start one that's not only pro-choice but pro-killing babies!

Either your seriously sick and twisted, or you're making fun of a very serious issue. Either way, I'm not laughing.

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checked Jesus wasn't the type to go around condemming people. To

yup, dude regulerlry chilled with thieves, prostitutes, tax collectors and other assorted "bad people"

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Also, one post will suffice, twetie

Quoted for Justice!

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Hmmmm last time I checked Jesus wasn't the type to go around condemming people. To the contrary he was rather prone to undersatnding and respect. Wouldn't it be nice if you followed his teaching?

Quoted for Truth!

_{Also, one post will suffice, twetie}