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you make me, and thousands of others SICK!!!!! i pray for you.....

You'll pray for her? So I take it you're Christian.... Hmmmm last time I checked Jesus wasn't the type to go around condemming people. To the contrary he was rather prone to undersatnding and respect. Wouldn't it be nice if you followed his teaching?

And may I ask what praying for someone has to do with abortion.... I mean its not like you can pray to God to get Mya to change.

lets work on helping homeless kids and foster kids before we make more thats all im saying

look everyone is entitled to choose how they want to live there life... theres a difference between pro abortion and pro choice

Abortion is cruel and wrong. It is Murder. Any one who thinks abortion is right needs to get there head checked for brain damage- zacfan4life14

how is that at all productive?

no THIS is murder


My name is Sarah
>> > I am but three,
>> > My eyes are swollen
>> > I cannot see,
>> > I must be stupid
>> > I must be bad,
>> > What else could have made
>> > My daddy so mad?
>> > I wish I were better
>> > I wish I weren't ugly,
>> > Then maybe my mommy
>> > Would still want to hug me.
>> >
>> >
>> > I can't speak at all
>> > I can't do a wrong
>> > Or else I'm locked up
>> > All the day long.
>> >
>> >
>> > When I awake I'm all alone
>> > The house is dark
>> > My folks aren't home.
>> > When my mommy does come
>> > I'll try and be nice,
>> > So maybe I'll get just
>> > One whipping tonight.
>> >
>> >
>> > Don't make a sound!
>> > I just heard a car
>> > My daddy is back
>> > From Charlie's Bar.
>> >
>> >
>> > I hear him curse
>> > My name he calls
>> > I press myself
>> > Against the wall.
>> >
>> >
>> > I try and hide
>> > From his evil eyes
>> > I'm so afraid now
>> > I'm starting to cry.
>> >
>> >
>> > He finds me weeping
>> > He shouts ugly words,
>> > He says its my fault
>> > That he suffers at work.
>> >
>> >
>> > He slaps me and hits me
>> > And yells at me more,
>> > I finally get free
>> > And I run for the door.
>> >
>> >
>> > He's already locked it
>> > And I start to bawl,
>> > He takes me and throws me
>> > Against the hard wall.
>> >
>> >
>> > I fall to the floor
>> > With my bones nearly broken,
>> > And my daddy continues
>> > With more bad words spoken...
>> >
>> >
>> > "I'm sorry!", I scream
>> > But its now much too late
>> > His face has been twisted
>> > Into unimaginable hate.
>> >
>> >
>> > The hurt and the pain
>> > Again and again
>> > Oh please God, have mercy!
>> > Oh please let it end!
>> >
>> >
>> > And he finally stops
>> > And heads for the door,
>> > While I lay there motionless
>> > Sprawled on the floor.
>> >
>> >
>> > My name is Sarah
>> > And I am but three,
>> > Tonight my daddy
>> > Murdered me.

so u still think abortion is bad. this unwanted, unloved, abused child shouldn't have just been aborted instead of being beaten to death by her dad, wat good came out of letting her live, wat mercy.


or lets talk about adoption they go into foster care then get raped, then have 5 different homes in 3 years never e=being able to attach to ppl then this poem happens but it's not "my dad" but "my foster dad" lets get the kids that are already born adopted b4 we talk about having more kids hoping for parents

Its actually very sad;i thought murder was illegal in this country.and thats EXACTLY what it is murder.innocent blood.and i understand if the baby has no chance of living or what not but if it has anychance have it and if you really cant bear having a kid consider adoption.why murder em?

I think abortion depends on the person. Its not something I personally would do. But if thats what you want to do, then who am I to tell you no? I think that other people should have no control in the decisions you decide to make with your own body. Yes adoption is another good choice, but YOU still have to carry the baby, and give birth to a baby. Then you give it away, not even knowing if the family you chose is a good one. Because not every child gets placed into good homes, regardless of what you are told. Abortion is a personal choice that YOU need to THINK about a great deal before you do it. And as i stated earlier no one should have a say in what you do with your own body.

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It is Murder.

It depends on the stage of the pregnancy whether you can really claim "murder." Plenty of nonhuman things are killed without anyone yelling about murder and it's all about defining when exactly a group of cells becomes a person.

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Any one who thinks abortion is right needs to get there head checked for brain damage.

It's not that I, or anyone, necessarily things abortion is right, but it is a necessary evil, so to speak. For instance, population is already soaring with too many uncared for children so why create more? You catch my drift, I'm sure.

Abortion is cruel and wrong. It is Murder. Any one who thinks abortion is right needs to get there head checked for brain damage.

i have one statement.

does the world really need more unwanted, unloved, uncared for ppl. they're always miserable. they cause other misery then those ppl hurt others n so on n so on. did ne one see crash thats excactly wat im talking about. anyone who's seen wat foster kids go through will agree it's better for them to be aborted then go threw it sometimes. n it also screws over the parents lives. unwanted babies- cause... hundreds of ppl miserible, being cruel, being dangerous, tempermental n much more- effect... so how is it good to keep the baby?

blueyedqt, you make me laugh.
honestly, you people who are against abortion do not understand that it is done for a good reason! whether it was because of stupidity or whatever that the child was conceived to begin with or not, that isn't the point. doesn't a woman have the right to say no to having a child, if it meant that having it would mean she was miserable and unable to properly provide for them? how could you possibly say that abortion is anything like a calculated plan to wipe out a certain race/culture/nationality, which is the generally accepted definition of genocide?

I know I'm kind of late but I thought I'd pipe up anyway. So many women who are against abortion and just think they'll throw their kids into foster care son't realize their ruining kid's lives. My mom works with kids every day who are miserable, and living in a group home bacause their parents were "moral enough" not to get an abortion. Wouldn't you rather not have a baby, than have one who will never have the life normal ids aspire for, and will have problems that no one can help them with?

LMAO I cannot believe this thread made it so far...so I felt obligated to revive it to see if anyone else doesn't get it.

I agree with Maya. Abortion may not seem great to a 30 or 40+ year old woman or man, but to a 15 year old girl, it's the world. Does accidental pregnancy mean anything to you people. And I know you're really thinking about the health of the inborn, but if the baby is a mistake , or not wanted, it's beter off unborn. I suppose putting the baby up for adoption could be an option, but is going through 9 months of labor worth it? I think not! It should be the mother's right to choose, not the governments!!!

Oh yeah someone was telling me about that, well about that book! I have to read it when I have the time...I can't wait to hear the so called pro-life people's response to that argument:P

I just came across a great argument in favor of abortion (kind of) that anyone who's read Freakonomics will know.

Abortion reduces crime.

Don't believe me? Well, you could read the book (or just the introductory chapter), but I doubt that will happen, so I'll explain it. In the 1990s, the United States experienced a major drop in crime, so big that by 2000, the crime rate was the lowest in 35 years. To quote one example from the book, the amount of murders in New York City fell from 2,262 in 1990 to 540 in 2005. Big drop, and it was exactly the opposite of what people had been expecting (which was a 15 to 100 percent increase). What does this have to do with abortion? Well, everything. When abortion was legalized following Roe v. Wade, the kids who would be most likely to become criminals in the 1990s weren't being born. Their mothers were poor, uneducated women who benefited the most from legalized abortion. Without Roe v. Wade, they would have had their kids, and those kids would have grown up and started mugging and killing people in the middle of the 1990s. Legalizing abortion had the direct effect of reducing crime in later years.

You can try to argue against it, but you'd be going against hundreds of studies showing that kids born in poor areas are the ones most likely to turn to crime to make a living. You could also say that it's still killing people, but if you really think about it, you'll see that it's killing the people who would probably have ended up on death row had they been born.

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I know YV, none of my comments were towards you

Yay!

I know YV, none of my comments were towards you

I still can't get how some of you people didn't get the point of this thread... hahahahhaha oh and thanks to all the extreme crazy Christians for praying for me...

Yeah, I know what you mean, Maya. But all that genocide stuff was directed at me, so I had to respond.

To all who didn't get it: LOL I am impressed by you guys. that's all I'm going to say, I honestly thought the point was pretty clear but oh well.

And blueyedqt, how do you dare to compare the holocaust with abortion? Or genocide in general with abortion?