Yes, they exist. Tormented children with fantasies of rape, cannibalism, necrophilia, torture, and killing in their minds. Hilarious how some of them were never "tormented" as children; they had a normal childhood, just, somewhere, some sort of infatuation with death and/or pain was born.

The "characteristics" of psycopaths are:

-lack of remorse or empathy
-shallow emotions
-manipulativeness
-lying
-egocentricity
-glibness
-low frustration tolerance (which I imagine results in anger fits)
-episodic relationships
-parasitic lifestyle
-persistent violation of social norms
-need for stimulation
-criminal versatility

Now, the traits common in the backround on psycopathic children involve:

-a mother exposed to deprivation or abuse as a child
-a mother who shows a tendency toward isolation
-a transient father or the family migrates frequently
-a mother who cannot maintain stable emotional connection with a child
-low birth weight or birth complications
-hypersensitivity or hyposensitivity to pain
-hyperactivity
-failure to make eye contact when touched
-absence of fear of strangers
-low frustration tolerance
-transient psychotic episodes
-sense of omnipotence
-easily distracted
-transient relationship
-cruelty toward others

Apparently it says (on the article I read on this) that parents have to work on bonding with children, because a really strong factor in the development of psycopathy is a child's lack of being able to connect with others.

The most disturbing thing I read about the whole article was that childhood psycopathy is increasing at an alarming rate. What now? How do we help these kids? Is this just a product of a bad family, or is this something that the child is born with? If it's the type of fmaily's fault, how can we make sure a child doesn't go through such (because apparently Child Protective Services aren't working much)? And if they're born with it, should we seek help for them, or shun them from society? Is this a result from a dehumanizing society and world we live in? What do you think?

These are child psycopaths. These aren't hyperactive kids with ADD. These kids can be the future killers of the world. The future cannibals, rapists, and necrophiles. As ugly as this whole ordeal is, this is a reality and we must face it accordingly, because if not, it is society and many innocent people that will pay.

More on this here

O first of all we should care because we dont know who will be the next victim, it may be someone in your family or a friend. when people talk to me about necrophilia i puke its just the thought that disturbs me and a kid doing this disturbs me even more, there was a case in the city i lived where a lady was raped and murdered by a 12 year old boy who had been raped by his family, i think that we should try to be sensitive and a reason of this hate is bullying.

Enlightening.

SO a few billion people are going insane; WHAT DO YOU WANT US TO DO ABOUT IT!? such symptoms and acts as these are somthing teens go through ALOT. and its not just us, adults and young kids go through this. its part of growing up or just the stress of life tugging on your brain. yes there are very good points in this artical but still. the things i am mentioning are just a scratch of the whole thing. Know why? becuse the complications of the human mind through acting, thoughts, emotion, ect are probibly the least know thing in thw world. its unpredictable and we just need to do whats in our gut. thats all i'll say. I'm CheeseLemons and thats my opinion.

well that was a pleasent read...

Oh, thank you.

Really.

Of course that was BS.

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PS: Came upon this site and this discussion because I was researching Borderline Personality Disorder... go figure.

You could always interview Celtic. She has a few of those.

Just kidding.

Sheridon15 asked..."Does it necissarily mean you are a psychopath if you have several of these personality traits?
Because I myself have an absence of fear of strangers, have low frustration tolerance, constant need for stimulation, sometimes have a lack of remorse(depends on my mood), and although I don't prefer it, sometimes can be a little manipulative, because hey, what's not fun about being manipulative? Err, sometimes anyways.
I am also easily distracted and I fail to make eye contact when touched, but I never have "fantasies" of rape or necrophilia( I think it's gross personally)...."

It was in response to what CelticNewAger posted about "Child Psychopaths"...

Much of what was listed can be the result of many things, and does not guarantee one is a child psychopath. For instance, there is Sensory Processing Disorder... and there is Autism Spectrum Disorder... these can result in a failure to make eye contact, difficulty in making it and difficulty in handling touching and many other things, related to one or more or all of the "six senses" (touch, sight, sound, taste, smell and spatial).

ASD can also lead to cruelty to animals because the person with it can have problems with realizing what they are doing is hurtful to another. That isn't about being psychotic, it can be about being autistic.

SPD, in its hyposensitivity forms, can lead to self-injury and requiring extreme sensory experiences, or it can result in one being hypersensitive, rather hyposensitivity.

There are all kinds of amazing ways that result in an effect on how we behave, how we experience and perceive things, and how we end up interacting with the world around us and one another, or isolating from the world around us... in our having a "natural" prefernce/tendency to live within our own heads.

ASD and SPD are just two.

Aroha

PS: Came upon this site and this discussion because I was researching Borderline Personality Disorder... go figure.

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well, i read most of the article you mentioned, and it seems to me that, although some of these traits may be hereditary, the greatest factor is family and environment. And you mentioned child protective services, which is what i plan to make a career of, who are some of the most overworked and underpaid government workers. I read somewhere that an ideal caseload is about twelve at a time, but most social workers have double and sometimes triple that many cases at any given time. These problems should be remedied by offering more help and support to struggling parents. Agreed, if the parents are abusive, the children should be taken away, period. But where do they go? Some foster homes are just as bad and the really good ones are few and far between, if only because many abused children are already burdened with physical and emotional problems.

I feel like this label though is a misunderstanding. Becuase who creates these unfortunate children? They are obviously not born evil... c'mon we shrugged off that hypothesis years ago! I totally agree that it is their environment impacting these children and as a psych major I suggest insted of the labeling and catagorizing, why not disscuss how to change? any ideas?

Sheridon, possibly the traits are shown in extreme ways, along with the fantasies. Like, instead of just fantasizing (sp?) about killing, they plan the murder instead. Things like this.

Very good post, Celtic. Though I must say... my fiance's fourteen year old has almost all of those traits except maybe 3 or 4. I'm locking my bedroom door at night from here on out.

Ok, seriously, I believe that you can take two children and submit them to the same kind of environment while growing up. It is possible that one child can come out totally messed up and the other can be a "normal", strong, individual. I would think that the person's mentality has a lot to do with the situation that they are in.

Antoher sign of being a psychopath, is cruelty to animals, and a constant money borrower. Supposedly they actually have something wrong with their brain, and children from perfectly good families can turn out to be a psychopath.

Does it necissarily mean you are a psychopath if you have several of these personality traits?

Because I myself have an absence of fear of strangers, have low frustration tolerance, constant need for stimulation, sometimes have a lack of remorse(depends on my mood), and although I don't prefer it, sometimes can be a little manipulative, because hey, what's not fun about being manipulative? Err, sometimes anyways.

I am also easily distracted and I fail to make eye contact when touched, but I never have "fantasies" of rape or necrophilia( I think it's gross personally).

But I have thought about torture, killing, and cannibalism, but not in a scary way. In the 'I wonder if' kind of way. I couldn't or wouldn't want to see myself as a cannibal or a serial killer. And definately not as a Necrophiliac (NO offense to you Necrophiliacs out there I just think its sick, I mean come on, DEAD PEOPLE, 'touching in innappropriate places' that's kind of sick and rather pathetic. But you guys do what you want I'll be over here in this corner watching my back)

Nothing is wrong with it unless you're a necrophile-killer (you kill people to "do things" with the corpse).

And what, pray tell, is wrong with being a necrophile?

Damn it, people. I decided to bump this thread because I'm sick of seeing the abortion is wrong one.

well, i read most of the article you mentioned, and it seems to me that, although some of these traits may be hereditary, the greatest factor is family and environment. And you mentioned child protective services, which is what i plan to make a career of, who are some of the most overworked and underpaid government workers. I read somewhere that an ideal caseload is about twelve at a time, but most social workers have double and sometimes triple that many cases at any given time. These problems should be remedied by offering more help and support to struggling parents. Agreed, if the parents are abusive, the children should be taken away, period. But where do they go? Some foster homes are just as bad and the really good ones are few and far between, if only because many abused children are already burdened with physical and emotional problems.

And as for children being born psychopaths, i can't believe that any child is born purely evil, who from birth has notions of inflicting pain without remorse. And there is so much evil in the world without having to add the notion of heredity.