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Picture of Ohiosweetgirl
Registered: November 30, 2004
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Yes, it becomes a baby, but that doesn't mean it is one. A child may look like an adult, but it is one?

I've never seen a child that looked like an adult. Although that's not the point. Have you ever heard a pregnant woman say "oh the fetus just kicked"? Why do you think that they generally say that the BABY kicked?
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That a fetus is a baby? How so? A baby is a stage of life. That is like saying "it's common sense that a 5 year old is an adult"
Uh no, a fetus is just a stage of life as well then in that sense. It's just sad that a 2 yr. old can see what so many don't. Or maybe they do just don't want to admit it.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Yes, but its weird that what "looks like" a baby actually ends up becoming a baby.
Yes, it becomes a baby, but that doesn't mean it is one. A child may look like an adult, but it is one?

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No, its common sense.
That a fetus is a baby? How so? A baby is a stage of life. That is like saying "it's common sense that a 5 year old is an adult"


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Brainwashing.
No, its common sense.
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It may look like a baby, but things aren't always what they look like.
Yes, but its weird that what "looks like" a baby actually ends up becoming a baby.


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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While showing my 2 yr old nephew a picture of a "fetus" at 11 weeks after conception, I asked him what it was and he replied by saying "baby" why do you think that is yogore?
It may look like a baby, but things aren't always what they look like.


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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Ok, here is the thing, fetuses do not have the right to a choice.

The fetus exists, with no rights. If we did, we would have to ask whether it wants to be born to the Queen of England, or some Sudanesse woman dying of AIDS. Because it is rightless until it leaves the woman, we have no reason to be worrying about the "future chilluns." We would better be helping those who are already hear than debate about those who might happen. For potenciallity is outweighed by reality.


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Registered: August 17, 2001
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While showing my 2 yr old nephew a picture of a "fetus" at 11 weeks after conception, I asked him what it was and he replied by saying "baby" why do you think that is yogore?



Brainwashing.


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While showing my 2 yr old nephew a picture of a "fetus" at 11 weeks after conception, I asked him what it was and he replied by saying "baby" why do you think that is yogore?


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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Anyway, who cares if abortion kills babies, the mother deserves that right, correct? Yogore, do not be ashamed of your stance.
I am not ashamed of my stance, so don't maike it seem like I am. Abortion kills fetuses, not babies. I look at what I consider a baby and a fetus does not fit. The mother deserves the right to choose, yes, but it's not killing a baby.


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Registered: May 19, 2004
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I was refering to veiwing abortion as killing babies which I do not think abortion is murder.

A fetus can correctly be called a baby. So, you are changing the facts around so that they fit your stance. Anyway, who cares if abortion kills babies, the mother deserves that right, correct? Yogore, do not be ashamed of your stance.

Also, babies aren't the only humans that can be murdered. Adults, children, teens, fetuses, and preteens, etc. can also be murdered humans as well.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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This is false.
Actually, it is true. I was refering to veiwing abortion as killing babies which I do not think abortion is murder.

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I consider an infant to be a child, a baby, a kid, youngen, etc. I consider an old person to be an adult, a senior, an old folk, etc. There can be more than one name for any particular group of humans. A fetus can most definitely be called a baby.
A fetus is in a different class than a baby. It's like calling a kid an adult.


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hmmm yet they do. Ironic isn't it.

'Tis very ironic.

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Ohio, you keep assuming that, but it's not true.

This is false.

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I consider it a fetus, not a baby.


I consider an infant to be a child, a baby, a kid, youngen, etc. I consider an old person to be an adult, a senior, an old folk, etc. There can be more than one name for any particular group of humans. A fetus can most definitely be called a baby.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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It depends if you veiw abortion as killing babies. Ohio, you keep assuming that, but it's not true. I consider it a fetus, not a baby.


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Registered: November 30, 2004
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no one wants to kill babies
hmmm yet they do. Ironic isn't it.


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Registered: December 14, 2004
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Oh my god (oops didn't capatalize god did I) Jamaica, no one wants to kill babies. You are assuming lots of things in points to ponder. Look you are never going convince us that abortion is wrong and we are never going to concince you. I refuse to engange in any type of discussion/ debate with you. It is pointless. I hope everyone else will take my lead and stop talking to you.


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Registered: August 17, 2004
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Ok here we go again. Let's break it down. First of all, are you a woman? Second of all, have you ever been raped? I am guessing by your bitter and religious message I am guessing not. I suggest that you keep your mouth shut about abortion, unless you are ever in that situation. I am not saying killing children is ok, but I think the woman has the right to abort a child that her rapist gave her against her will. I suggest you get to know someone who has been raped and has actually been in this situation.


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Registered: January 15, 2005
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I say its wrong because the baby is still alive and if u have the baby, its your fault and u have to deal with it.
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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
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How many times do I have to repeat something for people to get it?! I don't LIKE abortion but I think it has to remain legal because SOMETIMES it is necessary and the best option. AND I am NO ONE to judge when it is necessary.
Can you please give me some examples of when it is necessary and is the best option?


Someone getting pregnant at a young age(by rape or by having sex voluntarily), someone that for emotional reasons could not deal with the pregnancy, cases in wich the mother would be in danger...those are the three that come to my mind right now, I'll post if I think of anything else(or anyone else who can think of other examples can post as well). But again I will say, I am no one to judge if it is necessary or not(since I don't know the situation).


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How many times do I have to repeat something for people to get it?! I don't LIKE abortion but I think it has to remain legal because SOMETIMES it is necessary and the best option. AND I am NO ONE to judge when it is necessary.
Can you please give me some examples of when it is necessary and is the best option?


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I think it's tough(I haven't had an abortion but I've talked to people who have) to have an abortion because you do realize that you are killing something that would eventually become a person(if you let it).
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So it's a tough thing to kill something that might actually become a human being? But it's not wrong?


How many times do I have to repeat something for people to get it?! I don't LIKE abortion but I think it has to remain legal because SOMETIMES it is necessary and the best option. AND I am NO ONE to judge when it is necessary.
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I don't believe anyone likes having abortions but sometimes it is necessary(
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There's a girl at my school who has had three abortions and is pregnant again and is keeping it. These pregnancies have occurred in the last 2 years. What was the difference between her first three pregnancies when an abortion was "neccesary" and the current pregnancy where she's keeping it?


I've also said many times: I think abortion should not be used as birth control BUT making it illegal is not the solution. That girl that got pregnant so many times should've had counseling to teach her about birth control and maybe it wouldn't have gotten so out of hand, but I don't know the case so I can't really talk.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: April 24, 2003
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I think it's tough(I haven't had an abortion but I've talked to people who have) to have an abortion because you do realize that you are killing something that would eventually become a person(if you let it).
So it's a tough thing to kill something that might actually become a human being? But it's not wrong?
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I don't believe anyone likes having abortions but sometimes it is necessary(
There's a girl at my school who has had three abortions and is pregnant again and is keeping it. These pregnancies have occurred in the last 2 years. What was the difference between her first three pregnancies when an abortion was "neccesary" and the current pregnancy where she's keeping it?


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