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Registered: July 15, 2003
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Registered: December 02, 2002
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quote: Actually, abortion isn't painless..
i meant for the fetus. and the mother is probably under anasthesia or a local anasthetic.
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Registered: December 13, 2002
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quote: no its not and the woman has a very good chance of dieing.
No she doesn't.
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Registered: April 24, 2003
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quote I'm gonna give you idiots a post-birth abortion...
lmfao...
sry guys...i thought that was pretty funny...but not bc i thought it was witty...just caz it really doesnt make sense...roflmfao
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Registered: April 24, 2003
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no its not and the woman has a very good chance of dieing.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Actually, abortion isn't painless..
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Registered: December 02, 2002
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quote: don't want innocent babies killed horrifically.
O for pete sake! abortion is not a horific killing! its a simple, painless procedure which protects an often inocent victim's future!
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Registered: December 02, 2002
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i really cant answer that, because im 14 and im not in a position to say that im for or against abortion. i can say, though, that im pro CHOICE. meaning i think everyone should have the right to CHOOSE. it shouldnt be banned or forced, it should just be a posibility. whether or not each woman decides to use it or not is her own personal decision.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
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WWJD?
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Registered: July 15, 2003
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Personally, I believe that life begins when the heart starts beating. That's not too much of a stretch, right? I mean, we're classified as dead if we don't have a heart beat, right? So doesn't it make sense that that should be what classifies what or who is living, too? So an embryo's heart begins beating at around the 4th week of pregnancy. That's plenty of time to get an abortion and if you meant to get one but didn't...that's just laziness. So I think that abortion after the 4th week is murder...but before then...go right ahead.
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Registered: February 25, 2003
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Niether
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Registered: August 15, 2003
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Do not discriminate against people who don't want innocent babies killed horrifically. These women were not pressured by people saying they're going to hell for having an abortion. It's not like people go up to them on the street and say "YOU HAD AN ABORTION!! BURN IN HELL!!" And the only people they would have told would be their friends. IT's a natural, motherly guilt that comes from hormones. I know, no one is making me get an abortion. I don't think it should be outlawed because this is a free country and they don't have a right to take that away from us. I only wish to discourage people from taking away that same freedom from another human being that's growing inside their own body! Illegalization of an abortion would be unconstitutional. quote: It is easy for us to visualize state protection vested in a fetus whose body has partially emerged head first from the birth canal. A breech birth baby, with his or her entire body exited from the birth canal with the sole exception of the head, would seem to be equally entitled to state protection. How then as a society can we assert that a viable, partially born fetus should be denied the same protection under the law? We appear to be embracing an inconsistent, immoral, legally schizophrenic philosophy that can neither be logically defended nor honorably maintained.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/abortion/ab0024.htmlHowever as you can see here, there is much debate as to wether it is unconstitutional to have an abortion as well. The choice is all yours, I am fighting for the right of humans though.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Mandatory abortion.. hmm. A new means of population control?
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Registered: December 13, 2002
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Listen. No one is making you get an abortion. No one made those women you know get abortions. It was their CHOICE.
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Registered: July 03, 2003
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quote: I know for a fact because I know people that have gotten abortions. These women also told me that afterwards, they felt like killing themselves and there have been cases when women actually have killed themselves. The guilt from going through with one of these procedures is awful.
And do you know where most of that guilt is coming from? My guess would be the constant heartless attacks from pro-lifers.
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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UNPROTECTED SEX IS NOT THE ONLY WAY THAT A WOMAN CAN GET PREGNANT, FOR THE LAST TIME.
How many times do I have to say that before the idiots on here start to understand?
I have better things to do than to keep repeating myself. Like figuring out how to open my locker.
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Registered: August 15, 2003
Posts: 28
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I know for a fact because I know people that have gotten abortions. These women also told me that afterwards, they felt like killing themselves and there have been cases when women actually have killed themselves. The guilt from going through with one of these procedures is awful.
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Registered: August 15, 2003
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i believe that abortion is murder because the baby is alive in you so you should take care of it because you and the father made that decision to have unprotected sex so I think you would have to live with that decision 
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Registered: December 13, 2002
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quote: Also, the women are not always under anestesia. I know this for a fact. If they aren't under anestesia however, the womb is numbed
How would you know that for a fact? And numbing is considered local anesthsia.
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Registered: August 15, 2003
Posts: 28
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Uptowngirl:
The procedure in which a needle is stuck into the babies head are illegal in SOME states.. not all. Also, the women are not always under anestesia. I know this for a fact. If they aren't under anestesia however, the womb is numbed and a tube, with a knife-like tip, is inserted into the uterus sucking out the fetus. The tube is connected to a powerful pump with a suction force 29 times more powerful than a home vacuum cleaner. The procedure tears the baby's body into pieces and the hose frequently jerks as pieces of the baby become lodged. I recently did some extra research and found a couple other ways to carry out an abortion. One of these ways is called a Hysterotomy and it's usually done late in the pregnancy (it can also be refered to as an early C-Section). The mother's abdomen and uterus are surgically opened and the baby is lifted out. Unfortunantly, since this IS done late in the pregnancy, as I stated before, the baby is very much alive. Because of this, some abortionists have been known to dump the baby into water or smother them in the placenta. On the other hand, some choose to simply cut the cord on the child while still in the uterus, thus cutting the oxygen off from the child. Of course, these are not the only methods for abortion that are used. I'm just naming some basics. Above, Below and Drug abortions. Finally a more popular drug abortion is salt poisioning, also known as Candy Apple babies. This is most often used during the trimester, or three month pregnancy. The doctor injects a strong salt fluid into the amniotic sac (the fluid around the baby). The baby swallows this poision, resulting in the death. The most awful part about this is it takes an hour for the unborn child to completely die. The mother delivers the dead child in a day or two and sometimes the baby is still alive. The name of this method came from the appearance of the baby after it was born. The salt solution burns away the outer flesh making it red and glossy, like a candy apple. The deeper details are truely disturbing what they do to these children. I will always stick to pro-life because no one deserves to have to go through this type of torture.
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