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Picture of CelticNewAger
Registered: December 11, 2003
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yes that doesnt make sense

anyways, some people deserve death penalty. assasins, rapists, child abusers, etc. like, there was this assasin in the U.S. that killed 70 people, and in that case, i would have pushed the button myself. in fact, i'd have a medical team shock him back to life, and I'll say, "welcome back, son." and then kill him again, and again, and again...

i'd kill rapists too with a smile
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Registered: June 11, 2004
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i'm not gonna argue for or against the death penalty but check this out. in some places they have a death penalty for trying to commit suicide. is that not the STUPIDEST thing you've ever heard? i cracked up when i heard that. it was soooooooooooo stupid!
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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id much rather have my tax dollars go to killing somebody than feeding somebody
Registered: June 29, 2004
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Honestly, the death penalty is absolutely what those people deserve! Why should they live?? So they can be released later on to go and do it again? Just wait...It could happen to you. What would you want to happen if you had a child and they were molested/murdered? Think about it. Would you want that person to live? What WOULD YOU DO!? Would you feel sorry for him 5 years later and be happy they let this horrible murderer live? God, if you feel sorry for these people, you are insane. It's like you support the murders of people. "Oh yeah, you molested 10 children and then mutilated all of them, you deserve to be let out!" (sarcastically) You know how sad that sounds?? It's sick. These people who kill deserve to be killed. It's an eye for an eye. It's just not fair. Mad I don't exactly appreciate paying for these disgusting people to live either. It's not fair. It's like we are punished more than they are. Also the more people tend to get away with this sick stuff...the more people will do this. And in a matter of time...that's all that will be walking this earth...murderers.
Murderers, molesters, anything,... they deserve exactly what they asked for.
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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You don't deserve to live if you take someone's life.

Does the death penalty not take lives?

10 Reasons to Oppose the Death Penalty
There are many reasons the death penalty should be abolished. It is a complex issue and it is difficult to point to any single fact or argument as the most important. Below are a number of extremely valid reasons that the state of California should stop the practice of capital punishment.

Capital punishment does not deter crime.
Scientific studies have consistently failed to demonstrate that executions deter people from committing crime. The respected Thorsten Sellin studies of the United States in 1962, 1967 and 1980 concluded that the death penalty was not a deterrent.

The USA is unable to prevent accidental execution of innocent people.
The wrongful execution of an innocent person is an injustice that can never be rectified. Since the reinstatement of the death penalty, 113 men and women have been released from Death Row....some only minutes away from execution.

Race plays a role in the vast majority of executions.
Race is an important factor in determining who is sentenced to die. In 1990 a report from the General Accounting Office concluded that "in 82 percent of the studies [reviewed], race of the victim was found to influence the likelihood of being charged with capital murder or receiving the death penalty, i.e. those who murdered whites were more likely to be sentenced to death than those who murdered blacks."

The death penalty is applied at random.
Politics, quality of legal counsel and the jurisdiction where a crime is committed are more often the determining factors in a death penalty case than the facts of the crime itself. The death penalty is a lethal lottery: of the 22,000 homicides committed every year aproximately 150 people are sentenced to death.

Capital punishment goes against almost every religion.
Although isolated passages of the Bible have been quoted in support of the death penalty, almost all religious groups in the United States regard executions as immoral.

The USA is keeping company with notorious human rights abusers.
The vast majority of countries in Western Europe, North America and South America — more than 112 nations worldwide — have abandoned capital punishment in law or in practice. The United States remains in the same company as Iraq, Iran and China as one of the major advocates and users of capital punishment.

Executions are carried out at staggering cost to taxpayers.
It costs more to execute a person than to keep him or her in prison for life. A 1993 California study argues that each death penalty case costs at least $1.25 million more than a regular murder case and a sentence of life without possibility of parole.

Millions could be diverted to helping the families of murder victims.
Families of murder victims undergo severe trauma and loss which no one should minimize. However, executions do not help these people heal their wounds nor do they end their pain; the extended process prior to executions prolongs the agony of the family. Families of murder victims would benefit far more if the funds now being used for the costly process of executions were diverted to the provision of counseling and other assistance.

Incompetent Counsel is a Persistent Problem
A study at Columbia University found that in 68% of all capital cases reviewed between 1973 and 1995 the state and federal courts found errors sufficiently serious to require retrial or resentencing.

There is a better alternative.
California judges have the option of sentencing convicted capital murderers to life in prison without the possibility of parole. There are currently over 2,700 people in California who have received this alternative sentence which includes a limited appeals process. According to the Governor's Office, only two people sentenced to life without parole has been released since the state provided for this option in 1977, and this occurred because they were able to prove their innocence.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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That is a stupid quote. If they didnt want to suffer they would commit suicide.
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It's kind of hard to commit suicide in prison. They don't let you have anything. My uncle said that's what made him depressed. Cause he was bored. I mean, I do know that some people have committed suicide, but not as many who want to.


its pretty easy to commit suicide, just make a rope from your cloths and hang yourself, or make a knife and slit your wrists
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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You commited "B", go kill yourself.



No thank you because if I kill myself then I just might go to hell, and I don't feel like seeing you anytime soon.
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Registered: May 05, 2004
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I think that the Death penality is a good thing for the people that have killed someone else. i think that you should be a certain age to have the death penality. The people that have killed for plesure are going to do the same thing when the get out of jail. Eek Eek Eek Eek
Registered: May 09, 2004
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I think Death Penalty is a good thing. Some of them could escape and hurt more people. But they shouldn't do the death penalty until they are absoulty sure they are not guilty
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Registered: July 01, 2003
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i believe in death penalty.. we had debate on it and we almost won.. y shudnt we implement it?
Registered: May 05, 2004
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That is a stupid quote. If they didnt want to suffer they would commit suicide.


It's kind of hard to commit suicide in prison. They don't let you have anything. My uncle said that's what made him depressed. Cause he was bored. I mean, I do know that some people have committed suicide, but not as many who want to.
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Registered: August 26, 2003
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You don't deserve to live if you take someone's life. Unless of course A: they wanted to die or B: they did something totally inhumane. Either one of those would be a good enough reason.

You commited "B", go kill yourself.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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I think getting the death penalty just gets them off the hook. I say let them SUFFER. - Alive.


That is a stupid quote. If they didnt want to suffer they would commit suicide.
Registered: May 05, 2004
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I think getting the death penalty just gets them off the hook. I say let them SUFFER. - Alive.
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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If they kill someone else, then they deserve to die. You don't deserve to live if you take someone's life. Unless of course A: they wanted to die or B: they did something totally inhumane. Either one of those would be a good enough reason. Take care and have a nice day. Wink
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Registered: November 30, 2003
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Yes. Kill them. Kill them all.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Wait...we should try to forgive...but still kill?
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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We should try to forgive yet to forget...that is much more difficult.
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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1. Half the people on death row are never executed
2. Coping w/ tragedy-would you really want to keep someone whom has committed multiple homicides alive so they can be parolled and commit a similar act again.
3. Since half those men don't get executed-having them spend life in prision on death row is ampile punishment.

How do liberals see abortion as correct but the death penalty as wrong?

I'm somewhat prochoice but the death penalty seems to be more justifiable than abortion. Killing isn't right, but in some cases, maybe it is the proper punishment.

Death sometimes fits the crime. That person decided to kill someone else purposely. Why should we allow them to not see any punishment, to have the last thing they see are the eyes of their victims relatives staring at them through a glass window.

I'm all for life in prison, but many of the men and women on death row are not just a hazard to the public but to fellow immates. I'm all for redemption, yet I am human and sometimes it's hard to forgive, to give someone a punishment that doesn't fit the crime. I hope that someday and some way these men and women on death row find redemption and sorrow in their acts, whether it be from God or fellow man.

[This message was edited by Mr.Blue07 on May 04, 2004 at 11:22 PM.]

[This message was edited by Mr.Blue07 on May 04, 2004 at 11:23 PM.]
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Registered: July 03, 2003
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A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD, 3 MEALS A DAY, A FEW CHORES HERE & THERE, TELEVISION, NO TAXES, LIVING OFF OF YOUR TAX MONEY, EMAIL, d*m* people, maybe I should go to prison and get all this stuff too.


Exactly.

Why elaborate when one word sums it up so well?

EXACTLY, exactly, exactly.
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