Seriously, what is the difference between slaughtering little unborn babies and ripping their brains out and breaking their limbs ...and executing a minor?

I don't think there's any difference at all.

I say if a 13-year-old caps someone and kills them, he/she should be executed.

Let's just start being a little more consistent shall we?

It's somehow okay to butcher babies, but somehow it's offensive and inhumane to kill teenagers? Give me a break.

Y'know, this thread isn't really all that old, yet it predates jamaica's multiple bans.

Anywho, I'm against capital punishment. Why? Because it's not punishment. Strap the offender into a seat, flip the switch, and one big *ZAP* later, all his troubles are gone. I don't really understand how that's supposed to be a deterrent. Yeah, yeah, criminals will stop being criminals because they don't want to die. Right. In the less-than-perfect world in which we live, they think, "Poor guy. Well, that won't happen to me!" and promptly run off to blast a couple of cops with an Uzi and get busted.

It's so much better to stuff a murderer in a small cell and make them wish they were dead instead of actually killing them.

However, I am indeed pro-choice. Does this make me pro-abortion? No. In another dimension where people aren't screwing in phone booths and airplanes, we wouldn't need abortions. Yes, I agree that they are neccessary under certain circumstances (rape, incest, etc.), however, I'd rather people consider other options first instead of running off to an abortion clinic right away.

So I suppose you could call me contradictory (everyone else already does), but I don't see abortion and execution as the same. Minors are, shall we say, not in full control of themselves. The hormones raging in teens especially screws with the impulse control. I should know, I'm one of them. Thus, with the lack of self-control, teens have nothing to stop them from grabbing a shotgun or two and shooting up a school, except maybe a well-armored SWAT team.

The thing you have to look at is that executing minors is a "punishment" for something bad they've done (such as kill some teachers or commit grand theft auto outside of their computer). Abortion is getting rid of something generally unwanted. Are the teens unwanted? Not in every case. Are the babies being punished? I hope not; they haven't had the chance to even do anything wrong. So there is a major difference.

You might as well be asking, "How come we can routinely milk cows, but when we try to do that with human females, we're called perverts?" It's the same concept.

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Seriously, what is the difference between slaughtering little unborn babies and ripping their brains out and breaking their limbs ...and executing a minor?

First of all, that's only one form of abortions. Called a partial birth abortion. THAT abortion pulls the baby out by its leg and sucks its brain out.

And the baby is not yet alive.

Child execution is killing a live person. And also people feel the kid is still just a child and can't be held responsible.

And the child is alive. Has Breathed. Can feel emotions and do more than kick its mother from inside her.

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Originally posted by Ohiosweetgirl:
It makes sense. If people are all about being pro-choice then they might as well be about being pro-minor execution.

Yeah...and I am. I'm not pro-killing people though. That's just how pro-lifers and anti-minor execution people see it. Unless someone feels a need to respond to me, though, and tell me how horrible I am, I'm not going to take the time at the moment to write out a giant post on this topic. I've already shared my views on both topics several times over.

boy joe when you stir the pot you stir the pot I belive the penalty fits the crime so if a 12 year old kills some people it's of to the chair or your execution method of choice it's only fair

You can't "cap someone" and then get the death penalty. There has to be special circumstances, which include theft, rape, multiple homicide, etc. For example, Scott Peterson got the death penalty because it was determined that he would be held accountable for the death of his unborn son, Conner. You cap someone, you get 20 to life, not death.

Just clearing that up.

Bushism of the day:
"In this job you've got a lot on your plate on a regular basis; you don't have much time to sit around and wander, lonely, in the Oval Office, kind of asking different portraits, 'How do you think my standing will be?'" —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., March 16, 2005

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Our society is corrupt and contradicts itself. So what? Just get used to it. It's human nature. (If you want to change human nature, go right ahead. I'm not gonna stop you.)

So if you see a problem, you do nothing to stop it? That's an awfully fatalist attitude. Not to mention it gets nothing done.

Our society is corrupt and contradicts itself. So what? Just get used to it. It's human nature. (If you want to change human nature, go right ahead. I'm not gonna stop you.)

Pro-death? Is anyone truly pro-death bauhuas? Anyway you put it, Someone can't say that killing fetuses (minors) that did nothing to deserve death is ok but say that is isn't ok for minors that do, do something wrong. It's pretty twisted thinking. Just like it's twisted to be pro-life and pro-war. A life is a life after all, none should be more valued than another.

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*waits for jamaica to call her a killer*

heh.... really?

Some killings regardless of age are justified.

*waits for jamaica to call her a killer*

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wait, i remember you saying you were pro war....

nope... those WHO do go to war and those who said that guns can actually keep people safe(when in fact, they don't) are pro-war

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if youre pro war youre a baby killer. the baby is 18-24 years old.

are you blind, deaf and mute? I am for pro-life which means I am against abortion and anything that pertains to killing.

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Originally posted by jamaica17:

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if the govt has say in who lives and who dies, and they are against abortion. everyone lives, no death in jail, no war, no abortion.

everyone should die by NATURAL means not by the decision of some mother or some government or whatever.

wait, i remember you saying you were pro war....

so do you actually agree ith me?

if youre pro war youre a baby killer. the baby is 18-24 years old.

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if the govt has say in who lives and who dies, and they are against abortion. everyone lives, no death in jail, no war, no abortion.

everyone should die by NATURAL means not by the decision of some mother or some government or whatever.

this is how I see it.

if the govt has say in who lives and who dies, and they are against abortion. everyone lives, no death in jail, no war, no abortion.

if you agree with the top I have no problem with you.

if you think war is ok, and abortion is wrong, you might want to get your head checked.

Joey there is a difference, you put an age, fetuses dont have an "age." they might have an age depending on your culture.

so youre pro death, and Im fine with that. You cant have pro life and pro death together, it doesnt work like that.

No one has the right to kill anyone. I'd say we can all criticize others, preach to others or whatever, BUT killing??? NO WAY!!!

It makes sense. If people are all about being pro-choice then they might as well be about being pro-minor execution.