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<JoeyDauben>
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A parent in an east Texas school district complained that her elementary school-aged children (8, 4) were encouraged to cross-dress for that week's "Spirit Day" thing. It's a small district - Spurger.

At first I was like, "Oh gosh, not another one of these politically correct types trying to stamp out freedom of speech and expression."

But elementary school children? Give me a break, folks.

The school decided to chunk cross-dressing day (their version: Twerp Day) in exchange for Camo Day.

Subjecting to kids at that early of an age cross-dressing -- I don't care if it's for a football team or a birthday party --- puts in them an idea that boys dressing like girls and vice versa - is ok. It's not. It's perverse.

Plano, Texas' Liberty Legal Institute (the Christian version of the ACLU) defended the parent in this whole thing, because now everyone's getting up in arms about it all.

I say first of all: Don't *****.

In Frisco, north of Dallas, a couple of black parents objected to the school mascot being "Coons," as in, short for Raccoon. PC won in that one, and the mascot changed from Coons to Raccoons. ANd of course we have tons of those anti-Indian activists and the like.

Not to mention the "offended" parties who have a problem with the words God, Ten Commandments and other Biblical heritage items being placed in public view.

Sure, it's all "for fun and games" at first, just like the paganistic Christmas trees and lights are around Christmas; just like the innocent-looking costumes on the Day of the Dead (Oct. 31); yeah, all just for the children to have fun, yep.

Elementary school kids don't need a cross-dressing day. I can understand the fun and games in high school and in college, but in elementary school?
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Registered: February 18, 2005
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Your right. No father would want to see his little boy prancing around in a dress. Thats why I'm stressing, IT.WAS.OPTIONAL. Just because the school propsed it does not mean that they have to do it. I hate it when people automatically assume that. It was suposed to be a proposed idea. Not some thing mandatory or some thing perverse.

I dont beleive that parents today accept every thing the school hands to them. At least I know my mom dosent neither does my father. And if thats the case then shouldn't we be looking towards the parents to be stronger than that? Are all parents today so weak willed that they'll fallow orders from people that they'll only know for the course of one school year?

I dont think so. As far as 'exposing children to drag queen nature' Drag queens are homosexual's who dress as women in order to win competitions and awards or to earn standing in their circles or camunities. Lets compare and contrast.
Homosexuals competing for prizes,
7 year old boys dressing up for the hell of it.
Oh yeah , the conspiracy thikens. I dont beleive for an instant that these occarsions were thought up just to produce more 'drag queens of America' I think this was just some good clean fun that a whole lot of parents took way too seriously.
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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I really wish people would cross-dress at my school, it would scare all the rednecks.


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Registered: February 18, 2005
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Originally posted by EarthGoddess:
There is nothing wrong with putting a little boy in a dress or a little girl in a tuxedo or whatever. It won't tramatize them and it won't affect how they mature into adults. They'd probably just grow up thinking that clothes are clothes are clothes are clothes etc. ect.

Get. Over. It.


Different people have different kinds of opinions on stuff like this, you shouldn't judge people or call people dumb@$$es because of it.

~If all people looked the same and had the same voice what's the point of existing~

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Melisa101
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Registered: February 18, 2005
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Originally posted by depressedwavemaster:
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Cross-dressing is not a moral lifestyle way to dress.

Celebrating a pagan holiday is sure as heck not moral.


Your LACK of morals is evident.
That's your personal opinion. Whether it is right or


not is not open to your interpretation

I cross dress, Joey. Does that bother you? People look at me and think I'm a guy. That's what I want them to think. I'm getting a full sex change. Bother you? I'm immoral. So what? Times are changing, Joey. Quit living two thousand years in the past.


I think you are absolutely right let people dress the way they want. But U R wrong 2 because Joey's not talking about kids our age Joey's talking about elementary kids. We can dress how we want.

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Melisa101
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Originally posted by Yoko:
First off , it was a school function, how ever as was previously stated it was not mandatory. No one pulled all the boys aside and said "Hey you , you have to wear a dress." It dosent work that way so chill. Second of all, unless the boy who did dressed up , suddenly decides that he'd like to become a girl forever ( unlikly at the age of eight or six I might add) there is not long lasting trama or probloms . When you dress your little nephew as a cow for Holloween , does he, from that day foreward confuse him self with live stock? Give the kids some credit here. As far as Morality goes, I dont recall reading any passage in the bible that says " Thou shall not dress in the clothes of the oposit sex." And on that point who are we to decide what fashion is masculine and Femminine? I wear jeans, would they be imoral because they were originally made for minners or cowboys? And whats with the attack on Paganism? The Jewish peoples of this country celebrate Honika, does that mean their immoral? What about those who celebrate Kuanza? And pagans if I recall correctly dont overly advertise boy's wearing dresses or girls wearing jock straps.

The bible does speak about cross-dressing. If I'm not mistaken it's in the book of Leviticus. But back on topic, true these kids were'nt forces to participate. But just imagine you being a father and picture your son prancing around in a dress. No father wants to see something like that. As far as the girls dressing like men, that's common in today's society(to a certain extent). I believe that's one of the big problem with today's parents, they accept anything the school system hands out to their children. I'm not one bit surprised that this concern parent took the liberty to speak out against his/her child being exposed to "Drag Queen" nature, because that's just what it is.


-Joe
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Registered: February 18, 2005
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First off , it was a school function, how ever as was previously stated it was not mandatory. No one pulled all the boys aside and said "Hey you , you have to wear a dress." It dosent work that way so chill. Second of all, unless the boy who did dressed up , suddenly decides that he'd like to become a girl forever ( unlikly at the age of eight or six I might add) there is not long lasting trama or probloms . When you dress your little nephew as a cow for Holloween , does he, from that day foreward confuse him self with live stock? Give the kids some credit here. As far as Morality goes, I dont recall reading any passage in the bible that says " Thou shall not dress in the clothes of the oposit sex." And on that point who are we to decide what fashion is masculine and Femminine? I wear jeans, would they be imoral because they were originally made for minners or cowboys? And whats with the attack on Paganism? The Jewish peoples of this country celebrate Honika, does that mean their immoral? What about those who celebrate Kuanza? And pagans if I recall correctly dont overly advertise boy's wearing dresses or girls wearing jock straps.
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Registered: July 26, 2004
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I will quote myself.

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Obviously your lack of tolerance is evident.


And my other post, it was not meant to say let the monkey's run the zoo. It's just to say that..okay, here's an example: your 13 year old boy says he's gay. Just because you're not for it, you disown the kid? No, unless you've got a heart of charcoal.


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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bella what do you mean not to tell your children what's right and wrong at that age? If you don't inforce some rules and sence of morals at that age, then you'll deffinately loose them as they get older.


-Joe
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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WAAH! Boo-hoo! My kids were encouraged to cross-dress! So I'm gonna complain loudly!

Here's a newsflash: things like this are optional. As in not required. Which means if you don't want to do it, you don't have to. I see nothing wrong with this other than people who can't see past their nose.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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bag pipe players wear skirts.


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Registered: June 06, 2004
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I just think that people who purposfuly dress in a manner that isn't socially acceptable should deal with it when society doesn't accept them. They chose to do it.


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Registered: January 08, 2005
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GOOD FOR YOU depressedwavemaster....i agree that you can do what you want if thats how you feel, that you are a guy, than do it....whatever makes you feel better....!!! go for it!!!


Only you can change you but if you want to change someone else open there eyes.
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Registered: June 09, 2003
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Cross-dressing is not a moral lifestyle way to dress.

Celebrating a pagan holiday is sure as heck not moral.


Your LACK of morals is evident.
That's your personal opinion. Whether it is right or not is not open to your interpretation.

I cross dress, Joey. Does that bother you? People look at me and think I'm a guy. That's what I want them to think. I'm getting a full sex change. Bother you? I'm immoral. So what? Times are changing, Joey. Quit living two thousand years in the past.


None of us can ever be free while others are still in chains. -Leslie Feinberg
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Registered: October 06, 2004
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Who dare bring this thread back from the dead?


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Registered: December 29, 2004
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Pants were once considered "men's" clothing and it was inappropriate for women to wear them. So my wearing jeans to school, instead of cute little skirts, is wrong? clothes are a way for people to ingrain social expectations and standards on people; promoting the idea that only men should wear this and only women should wear that. they're just clothes for goodness sake! i agree with earthgoddess, get over it.
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Registered: November 15, 2004
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ok, joey, are you pedifile?!? cause you are obvously concered about how they look. and if you dont know what that means, look it up. i might have spelled it wrong but you get the idea.


be proud of who you are, dont care what other people think about you, because in the end you are the only one that matters in your life
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Registered: July 26, 2004
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Wow, did i just get called a liberal gypsy? I actually think it's funny you're so concerned about how elementary schoolers, i repeat ELEMENTARY SCHOOLERS dress. Obviously your lack of tolerance is evident.


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: July 26, 2004
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I second that.


Evitere Les Contrefacons.
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Registered: November 15, 2004
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ok, first of all, do you really think that the little kids are really going to rember one day of their life and base the rest of their life? i dont think so. and second of all, i think that JoeyDauben is also a dumb @$$, any one agree?


be proud of who you are, dont care what other people think about you, because in the end you are the only one that matters in your life
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