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i was in childrens hospital at a few days old, and my mom called my real dad for medical history and he said...."she's not my f-ing kid." and hung up, i could have died and he didnt care...

Your story warms my heart. The fact of the matter is, you had one parent who did want you. Compare that to a prostitute that depends on sex for a living (kind of hard when you're pregnant), doesn't even know or care who the father is, and can't support a child. Or a teenage girl who had protected sex with her boyfriend and got pregnant, when neither of them wanted a child.

I still stand by my statement.

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Chrissy, I think you're really missing the point. What I do with my body, and what women do with their bodies, is their business. Who are you to decide what is right for me?

who are you to decide to take another humans life?

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your religious laws do not apply to anyone who does not believe. To believe that they do is sheer ignorance.

lets get one thing straight right now, i am against abortion not only because of my religion i am because you are removing a human being from a womans body, ultimatly killing it.....
it wouldnt matter what religion i was or wasnt, the principal is still the same.

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And you think because your life has turned out the way you wanted that ALL other children's lives will be the same? That's quite self-absorbed of you.

no, not all childrens life will turn out the same....some will be bad, but just as i told clpo, if you want to use that mentality, we all should have been aborted, *just in case* our life wasnt good.
i think it is rather self absorded when a woman ends the life of an unborn child because she "doesnt want a baby right now"

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I suggest you expand your knowledge of psychology before assuming that most children who grows up not wanted will lead productive, "normal" lives.

well its not fair to assume they sit in therapy crying all their lives either....if that was the case half the population would be in therapy because they were "accidents"
but you are right i guess, i would much rather be dead and have no life than to have a life that is less than perfect.....
almost everyone i know has an aspect of their life they are not thrilled with....but it doesnt mean they wish they were never born.

I totally agree with Euterpe

Chrissy, I think you're really missing the point. What I do with my body, and what women do with their bodies, is their business. Who are you to decide what is right for me? Just as the laws of another land do not apply to us in the US, your religious laws do not apply to anyone who does not believe. To believe that they do is sheer ignorance.

And you think because your life has turned out the way you wanted that ALL other children's lives will be the same? That's quite self-absorbed of you.

I suggest you expand your knowledge of psychology before assuming that most children who grows up not wanted will lead productive, "normal" lives.

clpo....did you even bother reading my post???

i was in childrens hospital at a few days old, and my mom called my real dad for medical history and he said...."she's not my f-ing kid." and hung up, i could have died and he didnt care...

no, being unwanted is not "just as bad" as being dead.....he didnt want me, so i guess i should go jump off a bridge now
as i said, i got over it. most humans are quite capable of healing and moving above something in their life.
i have done it a lot.

not if it means they are aborting children "because they dont want one right now"

if that was the case then they shouldnt have had sex....especially if they knew that was a possibility.

they made their "choice" when they had sex.

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Originally posted by ChrissyLynn:
what applys to one person/situation may not apply to another

Then your assumption that women should not have abortions is null and void for that exact reason.

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that wasnt the point were arguing, he said that most grow up poor and in drugs...i was just pointing out that its not always the case

Being unwanted is just as bad. And almost every abortion (aside from medical emergencies) results from an unwanted pregnancy. How would you like it if you were born and the first reaction you get is, "Aw, ****, now I have to change it's f*cking diapers. Why'd you have to get me pregnant, you a**hole?"

Just a thought.

years of therapy????

nice assumption......

my dad told my mother when i was born "she's not my f-ing kid"
dna said otherwise

i dealt, and i didnt sit in therapy for years about it, it hurt, yes, but should i have been aborted cause my real father didnt want me, claim me, want anything to do with me......

no....i think not

these are not strong arguments.....

what applys to one person/situation may not apply to another

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Originally posted by ChrissyLynn:
that wasnt the point were arguing, he said that most grow up poor and in drugs...i was just pointing out that its not always the case

You used a bad example.

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and i guess she could see it if she wanted to, but she said she didnt want the kid, the dad of the baby did want it

I don't see how that is a counter to my post. Perhaps I missed it.

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.....at least if the dad would have it, it would be alive and not rotting somewhere.

It's not rotting somewhere. It's gone, vanished, forgotten. Just as you and I will be, they just saved it a couple decades. And years of therapy when it finds out it's mother did not want it and was going to be an abortion until it's mother was guilted out of it.

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It would've had a wonderful life with a mother that detested it? I suppose the mother could NOT be a part of that child's life at all...

that wasnt the point were arguing, he said that most grow up poor and in drugs...i was just pointing out that its not always the case

and i guess she could see it if she wanted to, but she said she didnt want the kid, the dad of the baby did want it.....at least if the dad would have it, it would be alive and not rotting somewhere.

It would've had a wonderful life with a mother that detested it? I suppose the mother could NOT be a part of that child's life at all...

Oh, that's right, children can survive without a mother figure. ...No, they can't! Because that would mean gay men could raise children.

Bad Euterpe.

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Because most non-aborted children do grow up in poor areas living a sh*tty life

how about something to back that up with??

the girl (24 years old) that i know had an abortion not to long ago it was a girl from an extremely rich family, and the dad of the baby begged her not to do it he wanted his child, she was almost 23 weeks when she aborted....it was about 2 weeks from being able to live outside the womb by itself......

the child would have had a wonderful life, the dads family wanted the baby to be born, the dad wanted to take care of it.
she said, she didnt want it right now.


it is also not aways the case that it is about drugs or alcohol....and having a bad life.....it is a girl who wants out of responsibility.

and i am not stuck on myself....i was attacked and i shot back....deal with it.
i am not stuck on myself because i took up for myself.

Oh get over yourself. So your mom's non-abortion (i.e. you) was a success story. But that's not always the case. Because most non-aborted children do grow up in poor areas living a sh*tty life, I'm pro-choice. I want to let women have the chance to end their child's misery before it even begins.

That's far more compassionate than bringing a kid into this world just so they can get hooked on heroin or be on the receiving end of a gun or switchblade.

i am not addressing your post on here any further than that Bauhaus

i am sick to death of the abortion threads turning into this

now if someone wants to address something on abortion rather than assuming that i have a bad life cause i chose to have children at my "young" age, or can debate without using the "the kids life would porbably suck anyway" theory then i will be the first to post, otherwise, i am not wasting my time or energy on mere assumptions.....

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they usally grow up and have kids at a young age just like you... What college do you go to? what are you going to make of your life

as i have said in other posts....my husband and i own our home, we own our two cars, we pay our own bills, we arent imposing on mommy and daddy to do it either......in fact, he makes enough that i can stay at home and take care of our children....that is what i am doing with my life.....we CHOSE to have our children, it was no accident or broken condom.....

do not judge me because i chose a different path, i am happy with my life, and wouldnt change a thing.

i have made more of my life than you could ever imagine.

college was never mine or my husbands "wildest beyond imagination dream" having children and family was....

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No, but being dead is much better than living a life of crime to support your crack addict because you can't stand to live in the hell you've been thrown into because your mom didn't have an abortion.

That's the harsh reality right there.

they could grow up to be anything
its not fair to assume it will be bad....
if you want to use that mentality, then we all should have been aborted.....

if they are aborted then they have no chance at all

they usally grow up and have kids at a young age just like you... What college do you go to? what are you going to make of your life?

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their life would go further down the drain than it already was. I hope you get what I'm saying.

my mom was heavy into alcohol, hard drugs.....coke, you name it, when she was a teen.....

she got pregnant with me at 16, she completely turned her life around, she married my step dad, she had my brother, i saved her life.

she didnt sink further....she said, she finally had something to live for.

her grandma tried to talk her into aborting me...she wouldnt....and i am sitting here almost in tears because i am so thankful she didnt.....because i wouldnt even exist, neither would my 2 babies

Most people who get abortions do so because they can't afford to bring up the child and don't want to give it up for adoption. If they didn't have the abortion, their life would go further down the drain than it already was. I hope you get what I'm saying.

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No, but being dead is much better than living a life of crime to support your crack addict because you can't stand to live in the hell you've been thrown into because your mom didn't have an abortion.

That's the harsh reality right there.

they could grow up to be anything
its not fair to assume it will be bad....
if you want to use that mentality, then we all should have been aborted.....

if they are aborted then they have no chance at all