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Registered: November 05, 2004
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The right to life only begins once you've been born. Or by the second trimester, if you want to get technical.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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quote: What if a drunk driver hits your car?
If I drunk driver hits me I am screwed and there is nothing I can do about it. If I got pregnant there is. Why bring an unwanted child into the world?
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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quote: And when the protection fails?
What if a drunk driver hits your car? You didn't do anything wrong but you're still dead. Sometimes the unexpected happens, and you have to deal with it. quote: So you are against the morning after pill as well?
Yeah, I feel once it's created, not giving it a chance to live is wrong. quote: The issue is really a matter of protecting a women's choice
How about protectiong the childs right to live?
It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: February 05, 2005
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How about a child that never existed? lyek he could be a rocket cientist and and astronought and a junkee and a basckettbal star wowza!
If god existed he'd be right winged
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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quote: How about a child who is put up for adoption, leads a great life, and gives a family to a couple who otherwise couldn't have kids?
Or how about a child who is put up for adoption and is taken in by parents who lock him up and use the child support money for drugs? We could throw "what could happen" situations back and forth and it wouldn't get us anywhere.
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: November 27, 2004
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quote: Don't give me the crap about it's not a person yet. If its going to be a person, its a person.
So you are against the morning after pill as well?Because MAYBE(I repeat MAYBE because you don't know for sure if you're pregnant but there is the possibility) you are pregnant? quote: Yes, I do view it as a killing.
I do too. In the sense that something dies. And someone killed it. So yeah I think we can agree on it being a "killing". The difference between us though is that you think killing is unjustified always(I assume) and I think sometimes it is necessary, like in this case. I think it is in a woman's right to have an abortion if it's necessary. quote: or at least use protection.
Like someone already pointed out, sometimes that fails. quote: I think its safe to say that everyone is anti abortion. No one has unprotected sex just go out and have an abortion. The issue is really a matter of protecting a women's choice.
Well said =)
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: September 06, 2005
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okay, i'm PRO-CHOICE. so you can just not go and get an abortion! but if a woman decides she wants to have an abortion rather than keep the baby or put it up for adoption or w/e reason or solution she can come up with then i'm going to let her have that abortion.
<3 "War is not the answer" "Where is the love?" <3
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Registered: October 22, 2006
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quote: And when the protection fails?
Lets just say it sucks  and it really sets you up for a lot of difficult decisions.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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quote: or at least use protection.
And when the protection fails?
draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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quote: You do not have kids for other people
A kid isn't a joke, or a doll, or something. It's a person. Don't give me the crap about it's not a person yet. If its going to be a person, its a person. Killing them before they are born is no better than killing them once they're out of the womb. Yes, I do view it as a killing. I think that if you don't want to get pregnant you shouldn't have sex, or at least use protection.
It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: November 25, 2006
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I think people throw the phrase "pro abortion" or "anti abortion" around. I think its safe to say that everyone is anti abortion. No one has unprotected sex just go out and have an abortion. The issue is really a matter of protecting a women's choice. I think its insane that people want the government to outlaw abortion. By forcing a woman to assume the risks of a pregnacy she does not wish to have makes her a second class citizen, which is unconstitutional. Even when it was illegal women still got them and doctors still performed them. I've never had an abortion, so I can't say I know all the facts. I've done countless pro choice papers on them and they all say the same thing : as a US citizen, a women has a right to choose what she does with her body and that what she does do with it is none of the governments buisness. That right is something we all share and its protected by the 9th and 14th amendments. I think abortions and the women who have them are perfectly acceptable.
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Registered: September 06, 2005
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i think adoption is a lot better option than abortion but some moms have to have abortions especially if it's rape or something and i think it's up to the person having the abortion and no one else's.
<3 "War is not the answer" "Where is the love?" <3
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Registered: November 27, 2004
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Ana I think that is great, but that is YOUR OPINION nevertheless, so here's my idea: if you're against abortions well don't have one, but I don't think you(or anyone else) should be able to decide over my life, if I needed to have an abortion well that would be my choice, no one else's. Like I pointed out before, there are milions of kids waiting to be adopted. that is not a reason not to have an abortion.
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: November 24, 2006
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My brother was adopted and his mother wouldn't have been able to feed him, so instead he lives in a great family (if I do say so myself) with parents who love him. And if you don't want the child then give the child to family who wants it! There is only one case that I would ever see abortion as fine, and that's if it would kill the mother to have it, and considering the technology there is today, that's a one in a billion chance.
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Registered: November 27, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by Kate127: How about a child who is put up for adoption, leads a great life, and gives a family to a couple who otherwise couldn't have kids?
I'm sick of hearing this. You do not have kids for other people wtf. Also there are milions of kids waiting to be adopted already.
Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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How about a child who is put up for adoption, leads a great life, and gives a family to a couple who otherwise couldn't have kids?
It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Great. Don't get an abortion then. It may seem like murder to you, but to others, it seems more like a kindness. Which would you prefer: an aborted fetus, or an unwanted child who goes hungry at night because his parents are unable to support him? I think the latter is the worse option. Why should a child be brought into this world just to suffer like that?
The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: November 24, 2006
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I'm not sure if anyone's already said this but I'm too lazy to look at the twelve pages so I'll just say it: I think abortion is murder, it's killing a baby. I agree that even if it was made illegal chances are people would still get them, but i still can't stand the idea of anyone actually killing an innocent baby. To me it's the equivalent of taking a gun to a newborn's head.
If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.
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Registered: October 22, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by dfresh16: my feelings are this. Legal or not,people will get abortions. If it's not legal then women will go into some dark alley and get them done anyway(because that would be the only way it could be done)
This is actually true. And then it would open up a black market, and I'm thinking that might not be so great. And um, going from abortion to homosexuality kinda messes with my brain too.
J'irai bien.
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Registered: October 12, 2006
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quote: Originally posted by risika2004: I know it. I'm not doing so well in thinking today.
yeah rite and you know why that is cause you are the one who was in on all of this SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! quote:
Okay , fine !!! Tell me what you think of me .... now ask me if I care ... ^ Jen ^
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