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Picture of ChrissyLynn
Registered: September 19, 2005
Posts: 259
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yes but it doesnt bother you that YOU could have been aborted on a whim?....

i mean your hear and everything but, i dont know, i just dont know how someone can have high regaurd for some life and not others.....

if just one of your parents would have been aborted you wouldnt exist....

i guess i look at abortion on a much greater scale than most do, because i feel it effects everyone, not just the baby in question.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
Posts: 6039
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Bad choice of words on my part. I meant that I couldn't really care less if someone kills someone I don't know or love. Call me cold-hearted, but I don't have the time to cry over every single person that dies, including fetuses.


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Registered: September 19, 2005
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You're right. The only lives I care about are those of my family and loved ones. Other than, it's fair game.



"fair game" Ive never heard that in relation to killing humans, sounds like deer hunting.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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then you dont hold to much weight to a human life.


You're right. The only lives I care about are those of my family and loved ones. Other than, it's fair game.


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Picture of ChrissyLynn
Registered: September 19, 2005
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It's not my business.


then you dont hold to much weight to a human life.


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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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I'm done. Debating this with you is the quivalent of yelling at my dog for not understanding Newton's Laws of Motion.

I'm just glad you'll never have the ability to even attempt at passing legislation.

If you do, by some strange cosmic screw-up, I'm moving to Spain.


A lo hecho, pecho.
Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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the killing of human life is everyone's business...


It's not my business.


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Registered: September 19, 2005
Posts: 259
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It does NOT become a separate individual until it can survive on its own outside your body.


no, science has already said it is a seprate individual from conception, because its dna is unique....

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Just keep in mind that YOU are the one that equated "murder of a human" to masturbation. Not me.

i was making a point

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By saying a zygote is a distinct human just showcases the fact that you have been obviously oblivious to not only my post, but anyone's posts but your own. Which is pretty sad.


as i have said countless other times....science says it is a distinct human from conception, its dna is unique....

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No, because his actions directly and negatively affected another fully developed human person that was capable of living on its own. The woman (or man) he raped was not an underdeveloped, unthinking, unaware, without-sensations fertilized egg.


but was a human none the less.


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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
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Originally posted by ChrissyLynn:
how is it not?

Don't answer questions with questions. That's not debating, that's eluding the point when you have no answer. Aka politics.

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when you kill a human it is wrong....i dont care who's body it is in, it is still a human, and it is a distinct human....not totally like anyone else....

..I'm sure there was a point somewhere in there. By saying a zygote is a distinct human just showcases the fact that you have been obviously oblivious to not only my post, but anyone's posts but your own. Which is pretty sad.

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what you do with your body is your right to an extent, when you kill another human in the process it is no longer just your business.

You've said you have children. So, I'm assuming you know about the inner workings of pregnancy. You do NOT have a separate being growing inside of you. A fertilized egg, zygote, up until birth (or when it can be prematurely birthed) is still attached and part of your body.

It does NOT become a separate individual until it can survive on its own outside your body.

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it would be like a man mastubating....his choice, his body

Just keep in mind that YOU are the one that equated "murder of a human" to masturbation. Not me.

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...but if he rapes a woman he has violated another human life....but then again it was "his body, his choice."

No, because his actions directly and negatively affected another fully developed human person that was capable of living on its own. The woman (or man) he raped was not an underdeveloped, unthinking, unaware, without-sensations fertilized egg.


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Registered: September 19, 2005
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how is it not?

when you kill a human it is wrong....i dont care who's body it is in, it is still a human, and it is a distinct human....not totally like anyone else....what you do with your body is your right to an extent, when you kill another human in the process it is no longer just your business.

it would be like a man mastubating....his choice, his body...but if he rapes a woman he has violated another human life....but then again it was "his body, his choice." right


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Registered: September 29, 2004
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Originally posted by ChrissyLynn:
the killing of human life is everyone's business...

How?


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Registered: October 16, 2005
Posts: 9
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I think that abortion should be against the law. If you are not a fit mother put the baby up for adoption. If your husband is pressuring you either put you foot down and say no or leave. To take a babies life before it gets a chance to live it is just tottaly wrong. I am completely against abortion.


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Registered: September 19, 2005
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It boils down to one simple point: It. Is. Not. Your. Business.


the killing of human life is everyone's business...


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Registered: January 16, 2004
Posts: 3993
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Wow.

Another one.

This is why I left yn. I have argued every point I feel like making. I have nothing left to offer.

So...for my opinion of abortion, I refer anyone who cares to Carl Sagan, who's view is more or less the same as mine.


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Registered: September 29, 2004
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Originally posted by ChrissyLynn:
my argument is that it contains the unique DNA of a human....a human that will develop into a newborn, then a child, then adult....so you have go to do better than a tumor, that will do nothing but mutate into a bigger tumor.

It boils down to one simple point: It. Is. Not. Your. Business.

So go ahead and prove to me how it is.


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Picture of ChrissyLynn
Registered: September 19, 2005
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But your argument for pro-life was that a fertilized egg contained DNA. So does a tumor.

Ya gotta do better than that.



my argument is that it contains the unique DNA of a human....a human that will develop into a newborn, then a child, then adult....so you have go to do better than a tumor, that will do nothing but mutate into a bigger tumor.


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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
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But your argument for pro-life was that a fertilized egg contained DNA. So does a tumor.

Ya gotta do better than that.


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Picture of ChrissyLynn
Registered: September 19, 2005
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actually, yes it does. It becomes a tumor because the DNA mutates.


it doesnt have the ability to develop into anything more than a tumor.....maybe it could become a bigger tumor, but i dont see it turing into a baby.


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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
Posts: 3690
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Hence why some people think tumors are our twins that never grew.

People are gross. *Looks surreptitiously to the post below her.*


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Picture of Tabb
Registered: September 02, 2003
Posts: 135
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Pro-life period.


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