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Picture of Jookly
Registered: December 19, 2002
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turn down the suck
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Registered: December 27, 2006
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That is enough right there to know "CaptainChurch" is using emotional reactions rather than facts to get you to believe the way he/she does.

Sometimes using emotions is a good way to convince someone. There may be facts behind it, but with certain topics, certain approaches are more appropriate than others.


Nephilim, why don't you just accept that someone believes a different way than you instead of trying to demean them?


...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: February 10, 2007
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I view abortion this way. If a mother does not want a child or feels that it would be neglected or would not grow up how she feels a child should, that is usually when an abortion takes place. I would rather a child be dead than suffer.

So would you be fine with a person going into a homeless community and killing the kids. After all you would rather that they die than suffer.

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But, if there ever was a mass murder where victims were selected randomly and not because of a group they belonged to, I would be perfectly fine with it.

So you would be perfectly fine with this a horrific incident in Salt Lake City in February.
In the incident a Gunman entered the mall complex and shot upon sight and at random targeting bystanders, killing five and wounding four.

Here's a link to the story
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,251603,00.html

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Making abortion illegal would accomplish nothing except create a new criminal.

Making something illegal is the government’s way for deterring a type of action. But making abortion illegal you would be removing the support that the government gives to abortion and penalize those who break the law. The new law would only make new criminals if the decided to break the law.


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein
Picture of Jookly
Registered: December 19, 2002
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Some may celebrate the anniversary of Roe v. Wade, as I did for many years.

That is enough right there to know "CaptainChurch" is using emotional reactions rather than facts to get you to believe the way he/she does.

Making abortion illegal would accomplish nothing except create a new criminal. Legal abortions mean clean, safe, regulated. I think legal abortions win hands down.
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If you don't get it, you don't deserve to live.


I like these calm little moments before the storm.
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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Originally posted by Jenos:

“You have a mat, and it’s got some conclusions written on it, and you back up next to the mat, and think about a question, and then you jump to a conclusion. Right there on the mat, you jump to a conclusion…”


explain please.
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Registered: May 03, 2003
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I wasnt trying to jump to conclusions...


“You have a mat, and it’s got some conclusions written on it, and you back up next to the mat, and think about a question, and then you jump to a conclusion. Right there on the mat, you jump to a conclusion…”


I like these calm little moments before the storm.
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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I wasnt trying to jump to conclusions...I know you were just asking..but I also know how some people on here can be.


To assume someones reaction ahead of time is jumping in to conclusions. But I wont argue that point. :P Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to respond to my question.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Originally posted by clpo13:
You shouldn't condemn abortion based on the fact that people who shouldn't have had abortions (i.e. people who can't handle something like that) went and had them anyways.


I don't condemn it for that reason...I condemn it for the many times I've stated I believe its murder to kill an ainnocent child. && I know some of you don't believe that so I'm not even trying to argue that anymore.
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Originally posted by Kate127:
You won't meet them if they're dead, either.


she does have a good point there though.
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Originally posted by YouthVoice:
I was merely asking. Don't jump to conclusions.


I wasnt trying to jump to conclusions...I know you were just asking..but I also know how some people on here can be.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Life itself can cause massive amounts of stress.

The stress argument doesn't exactly work, since there are a great many things that are stressful in life, including abortion. Swimming causes stress. Driving causes stress. Eating (or not eating) causes stress. And all of them cause different amounts of stress for different people, just as with abortion. Someone could go through an abortion and feel nothing later, just as if they had gotten a wart removed. Someone else, on the other hand, would feel immensely guilty if they even thought of having an abortion.

You shouldn't condemn abortion based on the fact that people who shouldn't have had abortions (i.e. people who can't handle something like that) went and had them anyways.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of LoveTheRainbow
Registered: October 28, 2005
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There are plenty of people you'll never meet in life

Thats not my point.


draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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There are plenty of people you'll never meet in life. You won't meet them if they're dead, either.


It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Guess what also can cause stress and guilt. ADOPTION!
Imagine knowing that somewhere in the world your child is walking around. Knowing that they could bump into you on the street and you wouldn't even know who it was...


draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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lethca

NOT A WORD!!!

Anyways....

I realised I'm never having kids. We're studing the reproductive process and giving birth in school. Why anyone would want that is beyond me....

And now for the on topic part of my post:

There are much greater psycological issuse with abortion than there are with birth.


It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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I would think it's shorthand for "and" and "plus," among other things. But it seems harder to type && and ++ than the words they represent...

Anyways...

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almost every woman does from the pshycological stress it puts on women ++ the guilt of killing their baby.


As I believe has been said before, there are many things that cause psychological stress. For instance, giving birth to a child can cause severe stress to a woman. Interestingly enough, this can be severe enough for the woman to kill her child (this is rare, but it happens).

So, if abortion is bad because it can cause stress and guilt, should we say giving birth is bad because it can cause stress and guilt?


The more you know, the less you don't know.
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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I was merely asking. Don't jump to conclusions.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: July 08, 2005
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Although that's not what this is about...its just something me && my friends do. Make fun of it if anyone wants...but its not gonna bother me. Just to lethca know in case there's anyone who wants to say well thats stupid, ahead of time.
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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Could I as what is with the "&&" and the "++" symbols?


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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