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Originally posted by YouthVoice:

I ask because the fact that you have known a couple of people who regret it doesn't mean that every woman does.

&& I know that...that's not what I was saying. I was saying everyone I've known has regretted it. && from what I hear (not saying this is fact) almost every woman does from the pshycological stress it puts on women ++ the guilt of killing their baby.

It depends on the situation, really.

The difference between abortion and genocide (The Holocaust) is that with abortion, one person is deciding the death of one person; while with genocide, one person is deciding the death of many (dozens, hundreds, thousands, millions.)

I view abortion this way. If a mother does not want a child or feels that it would be neglected or would not grow up how she feels a child should, that is usually when an abortion takes place. I would rather a child be dead than suffer.

I see this as wholly different than genocide, the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.

Yes, genocide does reduce the population, but for the wrong reasons, so I do not agree with it.

So, for me, I condone abortion, but I do not condone genocide.

But, if there ever was a mass murder where victims were selected randomly and not because of a group they belonged to, I would be perfectly fine with it.

That should be enough reasoning for you to drop this line of questioning. If not, just please agree to disagree.

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Nope.

So you support the killing of people, but not really?

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And as for your last comment about the mothers, that was just horrible. Do you realize what you are saying?


Yep.

Wow, that is very sad.

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I don't need to do any of it, others are doing it for me.

So to go back to my original point it sounds to me like you support genocide, and other such atrocities including the Holocaust.

I think Jenos has control of this now.

* walks away*

Nephilim will love that, Jenos.

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First of all I assume that you support and applaud the Holocaust, and genocide in parts of Africa.

Nope.

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I also assume that you think that a death and killing in general is good since it is a way to kill extra people.

That needs to be clarified, as it is rather redundant. Do I think killing is a way to kill extra people? Um, yeah?

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Lastly why don’t you sacrifice yourself for your own cause and kill yourself to set the example for lowering the world’s population.

I considered it, but then I wouldn't have so much fun sharing my opinions with considerate and intelligent people such as yourself.

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And as for your last comment about the mothers, that was just horrible. Do you realize what you are saying?

Yep.

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Jenos if you did have of what you say you would find your self facing multiple life sentences very quickly.

It's half. Like you said, plenty of people are dying as it is. I don't need to do any of it, others are doing it for me.

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multiple life sentences

He will still be out in 20 years...

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What is with all these people crying about babies dying? Babies dying is a good thing, people. Do any of you know how bad overpopulation is? Kill as many people as you can when you have the opportunity and make the world a better place.

As far as pain and suffering for the mothers... if they can't handle the psychological stress, who cares? If we're lucky maybe they will kill themselves and make things easier for everyone else.

If you are joking it is in bad taste if not then I have a couple questions.

First of all I assume that you support and applaud the Holocaust, and genocide in parts of Africa. After all they are just means of reducing the planets population right?

I also assume that you think that a death and killing in general is good since it is a way to kill extra people.

Lastly why don’t you sacrifice yourself for your own cause and kill yourself to set the example for lowering the world’s population.

And as for your last comment about the mothers, that was just horrible. Do you realize what you are saying?

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How come you never asked me that question? That's exactly where I stand, too.

The same goes for you Shade

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so kill as many babies as you can.

Jenos if you did have of what you say you would find your self facing multiple life sentences very quickly.

Because it's cathartic.

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Originally posted by Nephilem:

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I am not pro-choice, I am pro-abortion.

If you are serious, which I hope you are not, that would mean that you like the death of babies, and pain and suffering for the mothers.

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You know that we were talking in the specific case of rape. And like I said twice, I'll say it for the third time: I believe woman should have a CHOICE in case of rape.

I know that you think that they should have the choice my question was do you think that it is a good choice or a necessary choice.

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It is my opinion that killing is acceptable in certain (not all) cases, but I already know it's pointless to try and get you to understand that.

I realize that it is your opinion I was simple stating the fact that just because you have a belief does not make what you do write. Let’s say that I was a murderer. It could be my opinion that I did not murder the person, I my mind I relived the world of an evil, but I will still be charged with murder regardless.

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Facts don't matter when emotions are as involved as they are here.

Facts do matter when emotions are involved. There are many emotions at criminal trials, and facts still come into play there.

KILLING OF BABIES IS HORRABLE WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DO THAT ITS SO BAD

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I have known 5. And those 5 have known some, too. Why?

I ask because the fact that you have known a couple of people who regret it doesn't mean that every woman does.

I have known 5. And those 5 have known some, too. Why?

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but every female I've known, that's had an abortion, has really regreted it.

How many have you known?

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Originally posted by Jenos
As far as pain and suffering for the mothers... if they can't handle the psychological stress, who cares? If we're lucky maybe they will kill themselves and make things easier for everyone else.

That's the thing..most people can't handle the psychological stress. They may control it for a little while, but every female I've known, that's had an abortion, has really regreted it.

You do have a point there, Jenos. I know what you mean.

I wouldn't bet body parts so freely though. :P

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Birth control?

Birth control is like the welfare system.

In theory it works, but when applied, it doesn't really work.

Most people that need birth control don't use it, and the people who do use birth control are responsible enough for it to not be of any real use.

You really think the crack addicts that live in the ghetto use birth control? I just saw the other day a fat white mother with a tank top and and a mullet sitting on her porch drinking beer and smoking a cigarette while eight children played naked in the mud outside.

Obviously, I wouldn't know for sure without asking, but I would bet my left testicle that she is on welfare. People who need to use birth control don't, so kill as many babies as you can.

I already edited it. The quote that it's there now is the one I meant to use.

Ahh. What quote did you mean to use.

I apologize, Shade. It was the wrong quote. :P

What?