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This I know.
However it is irrelevant.

Really? Well the idea that “some people don’t believe in it” was your entire basses for rejecting the bible as evidence.

Now to bring the argument back to abortion killing innocent babies is wrong.

They are alive
They are human
The only difference is how old they are, and whether they are inside or outside of their mother.
Abortions are some times committed at a time that the baby could be delivered and lived, and indeed in some cases the baby survives the abortion, though often the child is killed afterward, or left to die by the abortion staff.

This I know.
However it is irrelevant.

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not everyone believes in the bible.

Not everyone believes the earth is round.
Not everyone believes that man has been on the moon
Not everyone believes that it was passenger airliners that flew into the World Trade towers.

So saying that not everyone believes in something is not a reason to believe that that source is wrong.

Neither of the two things you listed hold up to anything. Why? Because the majority has been wrong before and not everyone believes in the bible.

The fact that most people believe that people are superior to animals does not prove that they are, but it does add another argument in favor of the idea. But other sources also say that Man is superior to animals like the Bible.

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and according to billions of people also by superiority.

Damn the majority. Half the time they are wrong anyways.

In genetic terms definitely, and according to billions of people also by superiority.

In genetic terms, perhaps.

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am curious as to where that line of questioning was headed, Nephilim.

The point was brought up that human embryos and fetuses are no different then animal embryos, so I was making the point that we are different.

I am curious as to where that line of questioning was headed, Nephilim.

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My point was that humans have moral standards, and have souls and animals don’t.

What about moral standards means that human life is sacred?

I don't much believe in the concept of souls, so I do consider humans to be animals, albeit more resourceful than most.

Okay guys. I made a thread about it, so you don't have to disrupt this one.

http://boards.youthnoise.com/eve/forums?a=tpc&s=7422996...&r=16910573#16910573

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It has proven itself time and time again to be reliable and true. Because of this it can be used as proof.

No. It hasn't.

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The bible doesn't count as proof.

It has proven itself time and time again to be reliable and true. Because of this it can be used as proof.

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The bible cites humans only as being given souls. Man was also given dominion over the animals. Man was also the only creature made in the image of God.

I'm not going to turn this into a bible debate. The bible doesn't count as proof.

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What support do you have that they don't have souls?

The bible cites humans only as being given souls. Man was also given dominion over the animals. Man was also the only creature made in the image of God.

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My point was that humans have moral standards, and have souls and animals don’t.
Shade what support you have for the idea that animals have souls.

Ha. Tell that to my spirit guide. What support do you have that souls actually exist? My evidence would be just about as unprovable as yours would be. And I'm not going to waste spiritual musing on you. Desloe.

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Then a baby outside the womb is not alive?

It will adapt.

If you want to get technical I don't even consider my life to have started.

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Shade what support you have for the idea that animals have souls.

What support do you have that they don't have souls?

(I pulled a Neph two times in the last 10 min )