We're all fucked up, Maya. Whatever we do has concequences. If the woman wants to kill her baby, let her. I completely agree with Kate. We mine as well outlaw living if we're afraid they're going to screw themselves over. ( right.. That is me splitting my sleep. My speech is a bit skewed; apologies )

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because after all, who they really care about is the women

I care more about the child. There are a million other ways the mother could screw her life over, might as well give the kid a chance.

Shade what I was refering to is this new stupid argument they've come up with. I didn't mean they were right if that's what you think. I think it's an absurd argument to try to outlaw abortion, common' "you shouldn't have an abortion because you'll get depressed and ruin your life forever", what the fuck?! I think once they stop arguing fetuses rights' and go on to this they will have fucked it up completely for themselves. only thing is though, that they think that by getting on to the same terrain(sp?) (talking about women's rights) they'll be able to convince more people or something, because after all, who they really care about is the women (or that's what they're trying to make it seem like to my understanding)

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I propose that, instead of adopting out unwanted babies, we take Johnathan Swift's advice and just eat them.

Ah yes, A Modest Proposal. I remember reading that.

Maya-It sounds like they're not trusting the women to make their own decision. We all experience pain. It's a part of life and helps us grow. We shouldn't force someone not to feel it because it would be "better" for them.

Didn't you guys hear? This is the new cool argument against abortion!!! people are really worried about the women, they're trying to avoid them the suffering after an abortion...by not allowing them to make their own choice of course, but it's all for them...

Haha, nice.

I propose that, instead of adopting out unwanted babies, we take Johnathan Swift's advice and just eat them.

clpo: Comedic Nullifier of Arguments

I hail you.

So many flaws...the tortured souls of horrible arguments cry out to me in pain...

..Yes. Just post in an existing topic. The pages aren't duller colour there; we can read them just fine. Your name will still show up, and all your pretty letters.

Well, The Cap'n's short reign shall be a painful exercise in futility for us.

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Sweet, sweet murder. It is a delicious murder, not unlike drowning a newborn calf in a pool of barbeque sauce.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You are just such an interesting person.

Now, there are a million topics on abortion, CaptainChurch. Why must you make yet another one? Was it really necessary? Honestly, with all the threads about abortion, does it make sense to make another one, just so it can be "your" thread? Think before you do these things.

Sweet, sweet murder. It is a delicious murder, not unlike drowning a newborn calf in a pool of barbeque sauce.