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I almost got the highest score possible on the Reading comprehension section of the SAT so how does that fit in with your theory.

I did get the highest score possible, but that doesn't prevent me from missing large portions of an article because I skimmed it. Getting a good score on a test doesn't necessarily mean you're good at reading. It means you're good at taking tests on reading. We read the same articles and got vastly different things out of them. That means someone goofed.

Anyways, it's not that important. We've already established that opinions are not going to be changed in this debate.

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or your reading skills need some fine-tuning.

I almost got the highest score possible on the Reading comprehension section of the SAT so how does that fit in with your theory.

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I love people who think that you should have a kid simply because you fucked up and got pregnant, like it's a punishment or something "deal with the consequences." I also love how people say abortion is murder, but it's okay to have an abortion when you've been raped, does it stop being murder because it's not the woman's fault she got pregnant? Is that how this works?

Having the child is not a punishment. The fact is that if you are pregnant you are reasonable for the life of the baby that you care. Once the baby is born it can pass into the hands of other people.

It is odd that some people think that abortion is murder but also think that abortion should be aloud in the case of Rape. It is murder despite who you got pregnant.

I love people who think that you should have a kid simply because you fucked up and got pregnant, like it's a punishment or something "deal with the consequences." I also love how people say abortion is murder, but it's okay to have an abortion when you've been raped, does it stop being murder because it's not the woman's fault she got pregnant? Is that how this works?

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I read the articles and they did not make half the allegations that you say they make.

I find that hard to believe. Either you didn't read them, or your reading skills need some fine-tuning. I stand by what I've said.

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It was being aborted... who cares if it died?

The abortion process failed, and the Baby survived. The mother seeing her new born baby became instantly attached to it, but the abortion clinic workers just let the baby die. Not only is this a horrific and inhumane event, but also goes against several laws. That is why people care about this type of incident.

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They might as well. They lure patients in with promises of abortions or abortion-related therapy and then do whatever it takes to make the woman decide against an abortion, such as showing them graphic pictures and giving them faulty information on non-existent links between abortion and other bad things. Am I repeating myself? Yes, I think I am.

They lure parents? Do what ever it takes? Faulty information? Over Exaggerating don’t make you any more right. I read the articles and they did not make half the allegations that you say they make. These GPs centers are not evil propaganda lairs, but instead are helpful care centers.

I have a question

women flush 80% of fertilized eggs out during menstration. According to pro-life jihadists life begins at fertilization. So does this mean that any woman who is sexually active and has had more than one menstration cycle a serial killer?

the choice is made to have sex, if the people happen to get pregunaunt they should deal with that fact. except in extenuating circumstances such as rape. i am against abortion if the woman has the choice to have intercourse, but for it if she was taken advantage of.

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Don't be silly. If someone is hatefull and is going to really hurt someone, should be leave that emotion as it is? Course not.

Yes. Messing with emotions is never a good thing. If your goal is to cause problems then go ahead. Just remember, you will only make things worse.

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Yeah, but thats a good thing.

I disagree. Those clinics are there to help and inform women. Not to manipulate them in to deciding what they should do according to their own morals.

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No. Emotions should not be messed with. That is the worst thing I can think of.

Don't be silly. If someone is hatefull and is going to really hurt someone, should be leave that emotion as it is? Course not.

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Yeah, but thats a good thing. When people are about to leap off a bridge good-doers manipulate their emotions too. The emotional state required to make a women terminate her child SHOULD be replaced by emotions that stop her.

No. Emotions should not be messed with. That is the worst thing I can think of.

I'm pro-life except when it is someone who is under the age of 18 who's pregnant. If you are under 18, and you can't support the child, you should be allowed to get an abortion. Yes, adoption is an option.
Recently I had a scare that I was pregnant, and my boyfriend and I are both pro-life. We were talking about adoption because he doesn't have a job and I'm working minimal hours at minimum wage. We would not be able to support the child if I were. I know that if I went through the nine months with that baby, I would keep it, not put it up for adoption.
Though I agree that it is murder, people should have their choice and not be pressured or persuaded to change their mind.

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Yeah, I think I read that myself. They do ultra sounds to show the woman the fetus and then ask her to give it a name. They try to manipulate her emotions.

Yeah, but thats a good thing. When people are about to leap off a bridge good-doers manipulate their emotions too. The emotional state required to make a women terminate her child SHOULD be replaced by emotions that stop her.

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In fact, I've read about abortion nurses who try their hardest to turn people away if they sense the person isn't really up for having an abortion (I think it may be in that Time article).

Yeah, I think I read that myself. They do ultra sounds to show the woman the fetus and then ask her to give it a name. They try to manipulate her emotions.

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You make it sound like these CPS centers force people to come in and forcibly prevent them from having an abortion

They might as well. They lure patients in with promises of abortions or abortion-related therapy and then do whatever it takes to make the woman decide against an abortion, such as showing them graphic pictures and giving them faulty information on non-existent links between abortion and other bad things. Am I repeating myself? Yes, I think I am.

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I have read multiple reports of abortion clinics refusing to save the life of a baby that failed to die during the abortion procedure.

It was being aborted... who cares if it died?

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Abortion clinics don't force abortion on people who come in.

You make it sound like these CPS centers force people to come in and forcibly prevent them from having an abortion. I have read multiple reports of abortion clinics refusing to save the life of a baby that failed to die during the abortion procedure. Several abortion centers have been shut down for this very reason, while the legal system runs its investigations.

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Firstly, refrain from name-calling because it makes you seem far less intelligent than you already come off as.

Again, completely one sided. Your free to insult my intelligence to whatever extent you wish, but if I return fire thats completely wrong? What, are you a supreme being or something, Ms Somebody? "I can say what I want, and you must shut up because your not me, and you don't believe what I do?".
You are like a person covered in dung giving other people flack about how they smell.
My remark about an emotional-only argument was made because I would like to debate like others do for once, rather than pulling out facts in what is in fact a MORAL debate.

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Unless, of course I'm raped. In which case the fetus will be promptly aborted because it was not my decision, nor do I want to populate the Earth with a bastard child.

Well at least we agree on that.

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Impose a self-righteous tirade on 50% of the population, and you're just digging yourself a hole.

What is right and what is wrong is independant of the number of respective believers. People once believed the earth was flat, the sun revolved around it, and it sat on giant elephants. Just to be clear.

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but that argument holds no water unless the person you're arguing with believes a zygote or a fetus is a person.

Peter singer is happy to proclaim that chimpanzees are persons, and that babys (born ones) are not. Maybe we have the right to abort a newly born baby, if indeed the woman feels she wishes to do so. Perhaps the condition should be that the cord must still be intact, so the child is part of the womans body.

But all that sense is just talk. A woman has a resposibility to give her child life. It is her duty as a female of our species. Only a selfish bitch of the highest order would proclaim she should not have to suffer the bother of giving her child life. She does not have the right.

No one has the right to rape, murder, and steal, because it is in their interests to do so. Abortion should be an equal crime. It would have been in our laws had people known it were possible to stop the life of a child before it was born.

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I would say that this is exactly the same thing that these abortion centers do, they promote the abortions

Not true. Abortion clinics don't force abortion on people who come in. In fact, I've read about abortion nurses who try their hardest to turn people away if they sense the person isn't really up for having an abortion (I think it may be in that Time article). Abortion clinics allow the patients to have a choice. CPCs force a choice on people by showing one-sided evidence. I mean, it's not as if women go into abortion clinics and learn how they'll get rich and beautiful if they have an abortion.

I looked at those links that you provided, and the main complaints seamed to be that these centers aren’t neutral enough, and that they are only providing these mothers once set of options. I would say that this is exactly the same thing that these abortion centers do, they promote the abortions, basically it is a non-unique argument, and if you are going to call these Crisis pregnancy centers on it they should also call the abortion centers on it.