people that play violent video games might not enjoy that sort of violence in real life, but everyone who looks at porn enjoys sex. get it? yes it's true; not everyone who looks at animated child porn turns in to a pedophile, but a few do i'm sure!
it's drawings of children having sex. how can you possibly justify that??

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Well it might be legal but its still wrong. I have dealt with this stuff before (not personoally) but i know from experince that if you start somthing like that, then you will just get addicted to the real thing. If that person develops a craving for child sex, then he/she would probably go around raping children. Sickening eh?

That's absurd. If you play video games that involve shooting people, it doesn't make you want to go out and shoot people, provided you're not prone to violence in the first place. If what you're saying is true, than anyone who has ever looked at anime porn and enjoyed looking at it will eventually want to be probed by tentacles while wearing a schoolgirl outfit, or something like that. It may happen to some people, but it's a gross generalization to say it will happen to everyone.

Child porn does not always lead to pedophilia or rape. Seriously.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
If there are no real children involved...why is it bad?

Seriously, I don't get it. This is like saying you shouldn't draw pictures of people getting their heads blown apart because that's violent and violence is bad.

there's a different between enjoying something and just looking at it. not everyone who looks at violent drawings enjoys violence. they probably look at it out of morbid fascination or something, that doesn't mean they like it. i guess some do, but most don't.
porn is different.
ok this is really hard to explain so i'll just leave it at that.

Well it might be legal but its still wrong. I have dealt with this stuff before (not personoally) but i know from experince that if you start somthing like that, then you will just get addicted to the real thing. If that person develops a craving for child sex, then he/she would probably go around raping children. Sickening eh?

If there are no real children involved...why is it bad?

Seriously, I don't get it. This is like saying you shouldn't draw pictures of people getting their heads blown apart because that's violent and violence is bad.

And maybe it's just my strange sense of humor, but those two articles posted by Kimberley made me laugh. I know they weren't supposed to, but they were kind of funny.

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Originally posted by CelticNewAger:
Japanese men are almost chronic pedophiles. Hell, Japan is an underage-girl obsessed country.

apparently the legal age for sex in japan is 13. explains a lot, don't it?

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while it's illegal in america and other countries

Virtual child porn is perfectly legal in the U.S., thanks to the twisted interpretation of the First Amendment by the Supreme Court.

As long as no real children were used in its making, it is "free speech".

It was four liberal and one conservative justice that struck down the child porn ban.

Hard to believe, eh?

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That's an assumption. I read that japan actually had fewer rape cases than America.

Fewer reported cases, you mean.

I do think that legal animated child porn encourages pedophilia. If it's everywhere you go and it's perfectly okay, it does give people the mindset that lusting after children is right or natural.

For example, don't you agree that society chooses what the norm is or isn't? If the media were to insist that only people a certain color or shape is attractive, don't we come to beleive it subconsciously?

Did you know that some elementary school kids in Japan have set up their own system to protect themselves from these pedophiles? No, I don't mean their parents have set these systems up. I mean the kids. Many of them don't feel safe anymore and adults are doing little to protect them.

What message are adults bringing to these kids by allowing animated child porn? They are telling these kids that they will never quite be safe, that someone will find loopholes to make it alright, that the problem is being ignored and that they aren't cared about. Children are powerless.

Please read these two links. Hopefully, it will help you undersand just how badly allowing animated child porn can effect people. Just a warning though: These articles will (or at least they should) make you angry and disgusted, but don't let it make you hateful of Japan. Every country has their skeletons and millions of people in Japan wish the problem could be solved, but think it is a hopeless battle.

http://mdn.mainichi-msn.co.jp/waiwai/archive/news/2006/...2g00m0dm007000c.html


http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.htm

This is part of the whole Cause-effect argument of pornography in general. I really don't want to voice my own opinion, because it's kind of a revolving door for me, but people need to understand that cause and effect are different for different people.

Japanese men are almost chronic pedophiles. Hell, Japan is an underage-girl obsessed country. Even the damn video-game characters...they look like whorish little girls. Little girls in Lolly dresses with squeaky voices moaning every time they're kicked.

*is angry that her boyfriend likes that fucking Lilly character from Tekken*

Honestly I disagree. I say as long as there are no underage children involved its more of a release than anything else. Do we honestly expect people who find children erotic to just shut it out? I'm all for protecting kids, but I'd rather the people who like this sort of stuff get to satisfy their desires in ways that aren't harmful. If it festers...stop watching the porn. Sort of right to do whatever one desires unless it directly harms other people perspective. And when it does...strictly prosecute.

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Originally posted by yogore:
They're not doing anything to children. They're talking about animation, as in drawings.

It still could, potentially, encourage non-animated child porn and/or rape.

=/

eww

Hentai is one of those things that goes borderline decadence.

What I'm talking about, is say an animated movie about The Greeks. They were somewhat notorious for their Boy-Man relationships. If there was a depiction of that, for artistic purposes on itself, then it's good.

Some of the hentai I've seen on the other hand, really just disgust me. I'm not one of those who are disgusted at anything but vanilla sex, but there are limits.

I don't get anime porn so I can't really comment, though I do see where more rape cases could come from it

as to it being allowed in japan, this is a nation where old men sit out on the street in broad day light reading rape hentai*


*porn comics for those who don't know

That's a tough call. I could see it leading to more cases of children being sexual abused, but I could also see it leading to less by giving perverts an outlet. I've never really understood animated porn at all...

I guess for me, it would have to depend on the context of it.

If it's depicted as some sort of animated story, like Anime for example, and actually has some value to the story, then I'll accept it as art. Not saying I'll like it, but I'll accept it, and leave it be. This would have to be in a very, very strict context though, and not be something overly dramafied for erotic purposes.

If it's just a creation of pure lust, then I'm really having a hard time agreeing with it. It's the simple fact that it's degredation of a body that young, that really puts me off. I'm all for sexual exploration, but when you're animating children having sex, just for the sake of having sex, you're not creating art, you're simply abusing beautiful acts.

any kind of porn with children in it is soooooo wrong! on so many diffrnt levals!!!!!!

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All it does is have these sick old men (or women) creating fantasies in there twisted minds. Wouldn't that just add to the already growing number of rape cases in the world?

That's an assumption. I read that japan actually had fewer rape cases than America. THey'll have fantasies anyways. Drawings won't change that.

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how could anyone do that to a child

They're not doing anything to children. They're talking about animation, as in drawings.

Everything is okay in Japan: you really shouldn't use that country in contrast to the rest of the world.

Like, totally.