Medical library... Don't know of one-- I live in the middle of nowhere.

Right, and fetuses do not have personalities. Mothers do.

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Well, I'm not finding any information on complete personality absence, so if you're unwilling to give me something I'll consider my point still valid. If catatonia causes total personality loss, that fact must surely be printed somewhere.

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So as long as it has a personailty it has the right to live, regaurdless if they can help having one or not.

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Well, I'm not finding any information on complete personality absence, so if you're unwilling to give me something I'll consider my point still valid. If catatonia causes total personality loss, that fact must surely be printed somewhere.

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you will probley have to go to a Medical Library to find some good research on it.

Does what you've found say the deteration stops at any point?

And I stand by the definition of a person as someone characterized by a personality of some kind.

Well, I'm not finding any information on complete personality absence, so if you're unwilling to give me something I'll consider my point still valid. If catatonia causes total personality loss, that fact must surely be printed somewhere.

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Can I see a little research that will back this up?

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Go to a Nursing home or Asylum, or most hospital and ask to see someone who is catatonic and if you can get a reaction out of them then i stand corrected.

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I am not in dispute with the fact that the fetus is a living human being

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Is it ok then to Kill any living human being?

How can a human not be a person?
Person=People=humans

A Person just singular for people.
And people is a synonym for Humans.

Can I see a little research that will back this up?

I smelled that once, turned out it was just something on the bottem of my shoe :P

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deterioration of personality.

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Eventually there personality will leave competely.

lol

that was easy.

Stick around if you want. I smell victory in the air.

Puffin: You don't want me to leave? What?

Always & Forever,
20Chick03

Don't leave, I was just about to declare my victory.

Now wheeeeere's Korith...

gerr... you defeated me again...but I'll be back.. that just sounded like a line from a Arnold Swarchinagger movie! lol!
Anyways, I need to think about what I need to say. becuase what I just came up with doesn't make sense...geerrr! But let me clear this up... Everyone is going to have different opinions about this topic their will not be a right or wrong answer. & we won't find the answer either... it's just a matter of opinion.

Always & Forever,
20Chick03

>If you had sex with someone at thirteen then you couldn't have had much of a future in the first place.
Sorry for stereotyping, but I just think a more responsible person that knows that if they wanna get somewhere in life that they can't have a kid until after marriage wouldn't have sex at that age, rape is not a factor in this argument.

All I find on Catetonia is that it is the deterioration of personality. It says nothing about a complete loss of personality.

I've searched "loss of personality" and "complete loss of personality" and I'm not coming up with any diseases, disorders, or any causes for that matter. I don't think it exists.

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Sorry, what I meant by that was that her personality is so blah that she basically has no personality, plus shock or alzheimers and stuff like that can result in personality changes...

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Personality changes. Personality is not absent though.

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just because a baby cannot talk or show his or her emotions as we can, doesn't mean they're not alive...trees have no personality, as far as we know; does that mean they're not alive?

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I am not in dispute with the fact that the fetus is a living human being. I take issue with a fetus being a persona and thus being entitled to protection under the law.

>resakatheboss

Your on your own with that argument.

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trees have no personality, as far as we know; does that mean they're not alive?
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For teh record i have to problem with cuting down trees.

I don't either, and that was not the point I was trying to make, plus dude, I agree with you, so why pick on me? lol

Your on your own with that argument.

If it was sexual assault or rape, then I am sorry, but I still think abortion is wrong, plus if you are worried about what people will think, I'm sure I would be, but you just gotta tell urself that there was nothing you could have done about it, and that this baby still deserves to live.