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Picture of Kal2390
Registered: December 04, 2005
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Originally posted by luvabug22:
Even most pro-choicers see some sort of problem in abortion. You don't see ANY? Plus, very rarely do women choose abortion because it's "healthy."

i see a problem with abortion after a woman has two. maybe you were raped, and then the next was an accident. after that you're just being irresponsible.

you cannot ban a decision based on a few bad apples. should we get rid of welfare, social security, healthcare, unemployment benefits, and medicare just because millions of people abuse these privileges? no ma'am. we keep them for those honest americans who need the help.

i know i only mentioned government-sponsored programs, but i was just making an example. no i do not believe abortion should be a government-run institution.


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Well I understood that. I don't need to be told. I was just responding to the time period he seemed to be discussing.


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Oh wow you missed his point something fierce FoD:

The point is the same thing I tried to relay to you earlier... just said a little differently. Congress needs to make the law, not the Supreme Court.

And Luvabug... if it takes at least 6 days for the sperm to implant in the egg in the first place, than it's still not abortion. So find a new argument.


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Picture of Euterpe
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Jesus, abortion again.


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Picture of freedomordeath
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the constitution does not have verbiage describing what is and isn't legal for a woman to do with her own body



That's because abortions were little known, if not inexistent, when the original Consitution was written.


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i see no problem with abortion. i'm a christian , but a woman has the right to do whatever she feels is healthy for her.
Even most pro-choicers see some sort of problem in abortion. You don't see ANY? Plus, very rarely do women choose abortion because it's "healthy."
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According to this conception could take up to 21 days to occur
Could is the key word.


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It doesn't matter what your religion is. The constitution is what matters, if the constitution does not have verbiage describing what is and isn't legal for a woman to do with her own body. And until there is the supreme court can not legally rule on it.


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i see no problem with abortion. i'm a christian , but a woman has the right to do whatever she feels is healthy for her.


"This is the very ecstasy of love, whose violent property does forbode itself and leads the will to desperate undertakings, as oft as any other passion under heaven that does afflict our natures." Hamlet, 2.1
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According to this conception could take up to 21 days to occur... and sperm sits in the little pool for 6 days... so no it's not abortion, because you never really killed anything thats living.

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MAP is not really an abortion thing. well it is but not. For all you know you could not be pregnant but this will prevent it from happening. Which in a sense its not killing life but preventing. But I am really middle on this subject. Bonuses and minuses.


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Because those of you that believe the morning after pill is abortion might as well say that a life is created when you start thinking about sex.

People believe that the MAP is abortion because they believe that life begins at conception. If they were pregnant it would still be terminating a life, which is the whole debate.


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It's not really about abortion being right or worng, because it's not really right anyway you look at it.

More or less on the national scale of things this has nothing to do with morals but rather our own system of government. Think to yourself, do we really want a christian morals driven justice system... after all they did come up with crucifiction, hangings, the crusades, etc... We have a multi-religous country, and it's not fair to everyone to allow the bible belt to run the country.

So is the abortion wrong, yes, can it be nescissary, I think so, there are always cases. However the morning after pill should go on the market at all drug stores and then you dont need abortion anymore do you. Because those of you that believe the morning after pill is abortion might as well say that a life is created when you start thinking about sex.


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Aww Yoggie, this brings back memories. Smile Thanks for the welcome back. But now for the debate.


Abortion is wrong because it is a living being that is being killed. At two weeks the baby has a heartbeat and everything. If it's beating, it's living.

(this is hard to debate without a statement to really debate)


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Unless someone WANTS to debate with me. Smile

Back it up, let's go Ohio. We can set the example for how debates are supposed to go, considering real debate has been scarce on the boards lately.

Welcome back, by the way.


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I can back it up, but they debate is dead. Unless someone WANTS to debate with me. Smile
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That says a lot... and was really a pointless comment unless you back it up.


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I think that abortion is wrong.
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It does. You don't love it.

Are you somehow trying to say that there is a connection between the love people have for another person and that same person's worth?

Celtic, you are getting into a very dangerous way of thinking.


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The only thing different is that they were conceived under different circumstances, but that does not mean one has more value than the other.


It does. You don't love it.

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Ok, either way abortion is WRONG! If you were raped(keep in deep thought...happened to me) you should still have the baby! Find a good home for him/mer! ABORTION IS WRONG!


Did you get pregnant? How was your mental state? How old were you?

I got raped, and I am very very glad I aborted the child.


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Ok, either way abortion is WRONG! If you were raped(keep in deep thought...happened to me) you should still have the baby! Find a good home for him/mer! ABORTION IS WRONG!
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