Bogey, why do you support the abortion of something NOT human but denounce the abortion of something human? You are pro-life, correct? Shouldn't you be for ALL life, not just human life?

I don't get why humans think they are so damn important.

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Do you seriously think an embryo one day after conception is the same as a fetus one day before birth?

It may not be as developed but it still is just as much of a human.

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Things become different once you are born.

Things are always different in life, that's how life is. Things become different once they're a todler as well,does that mean that the todler has more rights to live then the newborn?

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A baby is still a baby regardless of when the abortion is done.

Do you seriously think an embryo one day after conception is the same as a fetus one day before birth?

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It isn't any more human at 5 months then what it was at 2 and it isn't any more alive at 7 then it was at 3.

Things become different once you are born.

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If the unborn is in fact a human, then you should never allow a woman to have an abortion. If the unborn is not a human, then you should always allow a woman to an abortion. It is really quite simple.

Things are never that simple.

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In other words, if you are raped and get pregnant, you are allowed to kill the "baby" because it's not your fault, but if you put yourself in the situation by having sex with your boyfriend you are not allowed to kill the "baby" because it's your fault, so basically it's a punishment for having sex with or without protection and getting pregnant. Very interesting.

You do notice, people like to throw out the cases of abortion when they're prolife. Many say the women deserved it or avoid it because it weakens their case. It seems prolife people expect people to abstain forever and punish those who want to have sex, not children.

Limits to when in a pregnancy abortions can be had, I see that. How the girl got pregnant? that you cannot prove. You cannot tell someone that they weren't raped when they claim they were.

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I think there definetily have to be limits about how far along you can be when you have the abortion and stuff like that...

A baby is still a baby regardless of when the abortion is done. It isn't any more human at 5 months then what it was at 2 and it isn't any more alive at 7 then it was at 3. That's age discrimination because you believe a baby at a certain stage of development has more rights to live then one that is not yet to that stage. That would be like saying that a 5 yr old has more rights to live then a 2 yr old. Or that I have more rights to live then you because I'm older and more developed. That isn't right to say.

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Who am I(or anyone else) to decide when a person should be allowed an abortion and when not?

That's contradicting yourself. You also said that their should be limits on when it should be allowed to be done and yet you also said that noone should be able to decide when a person should allowed an abortion. hmm.

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was forced to go trough with the pregnancy when I am not ready.

That is very selfish. A life should mean more then ones lifestyle. You shouldn't be able to abort just because it's more convienant to you. In that case then any crime or murder should be allowed.

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In other words, if you are raped and get pregnant, you are allowed to kill the "baby" because it's not your fault, but if you put yourself in the situation by having sex with your boyfriend you are not allowed to kill the "baby" because it's your fault, so basically it's a punishment for having sex with or without protection and getting pregnant. Very interesting.

Yeah, that is a pretty illogical stance. Whether a baby has the right to live or not should not be decided on the way it was conceived. If the unborn is in fact a human, then you should never allow a woman to have an abortion. If the unborn is not a human, then you should always allow a woman to an abortion. It is really quite simple.

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Who am I(or anyone else) to decide when a person should be allowed an abortion and when not?

You would have a point, except for the fact that abortion kills another human. Once that is the case, you have every right to decide if abortion should be allowed or not.

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but if a girl is raped and she gets pregnant I think she should have the choice...I mean how would you feel if you were raped and got pregnant and had the child of a man that had taken something special from you...bow on the other hand if you have sex with you boyfriend and get pregnant that is you own fault and you should not be allowed so I feel they should have limits to abortions.

In other words, if you are raped and get pregnant, you are allowed to kill the "baby" because it's not your fault, but if you put yourself in the situation by having sex with your boyfriend you are not allowed to kill the "baby" because it's your fault, so basically it's a punishment for having sex with or without protection and getting pregnant. Very interesting.

I don't know how I'd feel if I was raped and got pregnant because it hasn't happened to me. The same as I don't know how I'd feel if I had sex with my boyfriend(using protection) and got pregnant and was forced to go trough with the pregnancy when I am not ready.

How exactly do you have limits? Who am I(or anyone else) to decide when a person should be allowed an abortion and when not?
I think there definetily have to be limits about how far along you can be when you have the abortion and stuff like that...

Why do people keep making all these threads on abortion when we already have 3 active ones?

Heres 1
Heres 2
And Heres 3.
Check these out before starting a new thread please.

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I am not saying abortion is right I actually find it very wrong..but if a girl is raped and she gets pregnant I think she should have the choice...I mean how would you feel if you were raped and got pregnant and had the child of a man that had taken something special from you...

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My story.