It's not the same wanting to reproduce and wanting to adopt. Everyone that wants to adopt just wants to raise a child for whatever reason but can't on their own. Wether its a physical handicap or because they are single or because they are gay... we need every last one of the willing-to-adopt community to offer homelives to orphans and given-up-babies. One way to think about it is they SHOULD all have both a mother and a father but thats a fantasy world and not at all possible -there aren't enough perfect family set-ups for children to get nit-picky with. The only children you can "save" from gays are the ones you give birth to yourself, this can not be simply some wimsy decision for just anyone to decide when the children all JUST WANT A HOME. I think anyone self-righteous enough to take that away from them without providing their own ideal of a safe place to grow up in instead.... NEEDS TO SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!


Besides: Just because someone(or even most people) think to themselves that it's an abomination to be gay, doesn't make it so.

Double Besides: You can't prove that gay parents will definately make adopted children gay as well, it's not like gay children don't happen from straight parents just as often.

Triple Besides: GOOD PARENTS DON'T RAISE CHILDREN TO HAVE CERTAIN SEXUAL ORIENTATIONS!!! It's like saying all gay people should be disowned because their parents failed at forcing them to be straight.

This is another Gay contridiction.

Why do gay people want kids?

Seems as if you had the urge to reproduce, then you would have to be straight.

I don't get it.

Also I think all children deserve a mother AND father.

I guess that people are just proud of these type of things these days. Don't you just love it when you get them to admit that they're morons?

HAHA!

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You do realize that you just admitted to being a moron?

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heh, i didnt catch that one.

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youll have to deal with us yer WHOLE life, so get used to us

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You do realize that you just admitted to being a moron?

never. i will not bow to your mere whim. i am my own person and always hate your kind. i dont have to get used to you, and i dont have to deal with you. i can do something about it. so get used to people like us. us openminded left wingin liberals. youll have to deal with us your whole life.

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im tired of morons like you.

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youll have to deal with us yer WHOLE life, so get used to us

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im a close minded bigot just bc i dont agree with you?

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but of course. no, youre a close minded right wingin moron, thats why. focus if you will, on the key words "close minded" and "right wingin." the latter should explain it all.

what kind of ****ing messed up responce is "it just is"? come up with something better. im tired of morons like you.

alrighty then

Yes. Exactly.

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im a close minded bigot just bc i dont agree with you?

i think homosexuals have very right to lead as normal a life as they can.. it is not their fault that they are become what they do.... and i think poeple have no right to oppose this...
adoptions should be made more easy for them...thats the least our society can do for them.....

You guys be serious. Homosexuality-the sexual intrest in the sam sex. Herosexuality-the sexual attraction to the oposite sex. Yes, in some cases people do turn gay, but typically your sexual prefrence is a genetic thread of your personal DNA. Some people have switched to being gay for a change of tone and to see which sexual prefrence suits them better. The fact that your sexual prefrence would affect your chances to adopt a child seems outrageous to me. I would think if you are gay and choose to adopt a child you'd have enough self control to be a good parent. Some people are so afraid of the gay population. I don't understand why? They are people not some species from another planet. They should be able to adopt children no matter their sexual preference.

I've just gone over several of these threads, and it's getting on my nerves. They're all the same. "Homosexuality is a choice." "No it's not. It's completely natural." "It's not natural. Homosexual parents are going to turn their kids gay." "No they won't, because it's NOT A CHOICE." "Yes it is, and it's against God." "Then why did God make people homosexual?" "He didn't. It's unnatural." "There are homosexual sheep (or whatever they were) in NATURE. That means it's NATURAL." "That's just wrong. You're going to hell!" "God doesn't exist anyway." "Yes he DOES!" "No He DOESN'T!" "Does so!" "Does not!" And the madness continues. I know not everyone acts like this, but geez...there's thread after thread of this and I'm going crazy. Gah. Love, Jen.

I'm doing a 5 page essay on this subject and this is what some of the books I was researching had to say:

"Reseach has concluded that children of gay parents are more affected by thier parents' divorce or the unavailibility of the absent parent in a divorce, than by the disclosure of a parent's homosexuality."
-Homosexuality and Gay rights by Gary McCuen

"12 studies show that children with gay parents and children with heterosexual parents do not differ from in development of their sexual idenetity."
-Homosexuality and Gay Rights by Gary McCuen

"Anti-gay activists generally encourage courts to consider homosexuality a strong negative that a gay or lesbian parent has to overcome to win custody or the right to visit his or her children."
-Gay Rights by Tricia Adryszewski

"The courts see it differently. 'Courts are more used to having to coerce people to take responsibility for care for their children,' a gay activist notes, 'and so when someone, anyone comes in asking to be made responsible, they are very sympathetic.'"
-Gay Rights by Tricia Adryszewski

"A 16 year old girl's response when her father told her he was gay wasn't unusual... She was ashamed and disgusted, not becuase he was gay, but because he lied to her."
-Homosexuality and Gay Rights by Gary McCuen


And this made me want to kill someone:

"If a loving homosexual couple wants to adopt a child who is now living with an abusive father, wouldn't the child be better off with the gay couple? But such scenarios do not validate homosexual households... The question should be: what is best for children's development?... Given as many as 1 million heterosexual couples wanting to adopt, there is no excuse for validating homosexual adoption when there are heathlier alternatives."
-Gay Rights by Tamara Roleff

The point I'm trying to make is that all the people who are so against homosexual adoption dont seem to know what the hell they're talking about. Pick up a book and do some research before you decide to say another ignorant statment.

Sorry luvabug but your arguments are beyond ignorant and uneducated. They aren't even worth my time.

"and the point of telling me im hopeless and a moron...is????"

Someone's gotta say it.

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to satisfy my daily quota of putting down a close minded bigot like you.

and the point of telling me im hopeless and a moron...is????

Any person who would be a good parent, and can support a child should by all means adopt regardless of thier sexual orientation. It's impossible to prove that there would be any effects on the child when raised by gay parents whatsoever. It's all a bunch of unfounded speculation. If you are extending your views past influencing members of the same religion, then you have got to stop using the bible to back you up. In America we separate church and state... this means that we make things FAIR, NOT according to god. (which I am ever so thankful for in some respects)