Yes it is really bad. Most and I mean MOST straight people have no morals or integrity. They are just a bunch of sex craving humans. And raising a bunch of children with no morals or integrity is not what our country needs. We are already in a terrible state. Sex, drugs, and evil intentions are broadcasted everywhere to the children of this nation. We don't need to have parents raising kids this way. We already have too many. Lets not let the straight people continue this self destruction of our nations morals and integrity.
Yes it is really bad. Most and I mean MOST gays have no morals or integrity. They are just a bunch of sex cravying humans. And raising a bunch of children with no moral or integrity is not what our country needs. We are already in a terrible state. Sex, drugs, and evil intents are broadcast everywhere to the children of this nation. We don't need to have parents raising kids this way. We already have too many. Lets not let the gays continue this self destruction of our nations morals and integrity.
I don't see why they can't have children because they are people too. Did you know that "gay" people don't chose to be gay some just are then they grow out of it and some don't I think if they are happier dating same sex then good for them but I am straight and do not have a problem with homosexual people because that is how they find happiness and why should you determine if they are good parents because they are gay. Did you know I know someone who is a man who married a women and had children and after 10 years of marrage they got a divorce because he had found more happiness in a man than a women and his son or ex wife did not have a problem with that and are still really close. So think about that before you say that they do not make good parents because he is one and that son is a boy who goes to my school and wrote a essay about that and read it to the whole class and did not think twice about it and he said he felt better about it when he was done.
quote: aaaahahahahahahahahahaaahahah.... It's not something you can choose?!? that is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. Now, I'm sure that you choose who you like. I know I do, and being a girl I choose guys(like it should be). You cannot tell me, that you don't choose to like guys if you are a guy. You can be straight if you want to. IT'S NOT THAT HARD! man, I wish I would die sometimes, just to get away from all these ignorant people.
Oh god lets not start the "is homosexuality a chose" debate.
quote: What I meant by strong, is someone respectable and a excellent role model.
oh, sorry?
quote: I wouldn't be surprised if this was already the case.
neither would i, though many GLBT people adopt kids. *shrugs*
quote: I don't really see how you can say that unless you were raised by every set of hetro parents, and homo parents.
what i meant was that they themselves were most likely made fun of and pressured into being straight or what society wants, that they wouldnt push their kids to do or be what they arent. yes, i know a lot of hetero parents that are very accepting, but not neccesairily more accepting in that sense, if you see what i mean, because they dont know exactly how it is to be hated for your sexual orientation... dunno, i think im confusing myself.
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quote: that is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard
its true. you try liking the same gender if youre straight. its not possible
quote: and being a girl I choose guys
youre just saying that to make a point. you cant like girls in a sexual sense, i know, cause i cant like guys in that way. *shakes head*
quote: You can be straight if you want to
oh? well then, by all means tell me! being gay [and transgender] is the last think i want! if you know a way to "reverse" what it is, so i can like guys, tell me. i welcome it with open arms.
quote: I wish I would die sometimes, just to get away from all these ignorant people
How can you deny someone the right to create a family for themselves? It's a basic human instinct. No one wants to be 80 years old with all their friends and family passed away, and have no children or grandchildren to talk to or to look after them. Before you say someone has no right to make a family, ask yourself if you would like it if someone banned you from ever having children to raise.
quote:you cant be pressured into being gay. its not something you can choose
aaaahahahahahahahahahaaahahah.... It's not something you can choose?!? that is the DUMBEST thing I have ever heard. Now, I'm sure that you choose who you like. I know I do, and being a girl I choose guys(like it should be). You cannot tell me, that you don't choose to like guys if you are a guy. You can be straight if you want to. IT'S NOT THAT HARD! man, I wish I would die sometimes, just to get away from all these ignorant people.
quote: i'm afraid of guys, partly cause i have too strong of a male influence.
What I meant by strong, is someone respectable and a excellent role model.
quote: youre saying that i cant ever adopt kids merely because of my gender and the gender that i am attracted to. its nothing i can help.
Now your putting words in my mouth. I never said you, *Can't* I just said a family with respectable Male and female parental influences should have priority over those that do not. I wouldn't be surprised if this was already the case.
quote: they are most likely more accepting than hetero parents are.
lol I don't really see how you can say that unless you were raised by every set of hetro parents, and homo parents.
quote: but because it is in the child's best interest. Wouldn't you agree?
yes i would agree, but you dont know each child's best intrest. you cant group people together like sheep. we're not all the same.
quote: Some people can grow up utterly afraid of men, if they don't a have strong/or at all male influence in their lives.
i'm afraid of guys, partly cause i have too strong of a male influence.
quote: Capability is more then just finances.
i know. thats why i put etc.
quote: but I think we all can agree that a loving Mother And Father is the ideal environment for a child to be brought up in.
no, i cant agree on that. youre saying that i cant ever adopt kids merely because of my gender and the gender that i am attracted to. its nothing i can help. it will not hurt the child any to have GLBT parents. my best friend has two gay parents, and his dads are nice people! he's not messed up by them at all, or disturbed. to tell you the truth, i would rather have a GLBT parent than a hetero parent, merely because they are most likely more accepting than hetero parents are.
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quote: As long as they don't pressure the child to be gay
you cant be pressured into being gay. its not something you can choose. many gay people have been pressured to be straight, so i do not think they would condemn their children to the same fate.
quote: or (if they are men)molest the child(if its a boy).
that is a common misconception. it is propoganda put out against GLBT people. humans focus on the one or two GLBT people who are rapists, and they ignore the hundreds of hetero pepople who are too.
I'm not sure. As long as they don't pressure the child to be gay or (if they are men)molest the child(if its a boy). I think if they are gay, they need to show the children positive homosexual and heterosexual role models. If the kid is gonna be straight,then they shouldn't have a prob, if the kid is gonna be homosexual, they shouldn't have a prob with it either.
Its just the surroundings......
I'm not against homosexual its just... I'd rather see a child being raised by a lesbian couple(sorry).
But Children, while growing up need a strong Male AND Female influence. Families who can provide better for children have priority over those that may not, not because one is necessarily superior, but because it is in the child's best interest. Wouldn't you agree?
Teasing, Maturing, and developing self identity is something that a child will need a female and male influence to develop healthy. Some people can grow up utterly afraid of men, if they don't a have strong/or at all male influence in their lives.
quote: i dont think that a requirement for adopting kids should be sexual orientation, it should be how capable you are, if you can finnatially support the child etc.
Capability is more then just finances. Children aren’t awarded to families that have a irresponsible father, or a dead beat father. Because this is not a healthy situation for a child to grow up in. Well, no father is better than a dead beat one, but I think we all can agree that a loving Mother And Father is the ideal environment for a child to be brought up in.
quote: I am just stating that families with BOTH a Mother(who is a woman) and Father(who is a man) Should have Priority over those that do not.
not trying to put words in your mouth, korith, but are you saying that you're superior to us?
i dont think that a requirement for adopting kids should be sexual orientation, it should be how capable you are, if you can finnatially support the child etc. if youre worried about the kid being freaked out or whatnot from having GLBT parents, then do what jen suggested, have a close friend help take care of them, but your orientation shouldnt be a requirement.
There is nothing wrong with a gay couple adopting. It would be like saying that straight couples cannot adopt because they are straight. that is totaly wrong!I would rather have a child in a safe home with loving parents then in an orphanage or on the streets with only god knows what. i mean if you think about it....we are always talking about how we want world peace and we all need to get along no matter what, when we have people saying "they cannot adopt a child becuase they are gay" i mean, we are being a little bit hypocritical here, i think.
The gay couple I know that have adopted have a really close female friend that's there almost everyday and is always willing to take their daughter shopping and stuff, so the girl does have a sort of mother figure. Not as good as a "real" mom, but it's something.
I am just stating that families with BOTH a Mother(who is a woman) and Father(who is a man) Should have Priority over those that do not.
I don't think a transgender man, claiming to be a woman, and a mother is really to give much comfort to a little girl, when she has a "female" problem.
Also at a young age, this might be difficult for the girl (or boy) to understand, and my result in gender identity problems with them.
That's sick. That teacher and principal should be fired for being such homophobic life-ruiners. I feel bad for that poor kid! Now, if he went around saying, "Oh, that's so gay!" in a derogatory way, then I could understand their reaction. Absolutely ridiculous...
“I was concerned when the assistant principal called and told me my son had said a word so bad that he didn’t want to repeat it over the phone,” said Sharon Huff, the second-grader’s mother. She added, “But that was nothing compared to the shock I felt when my little boy came home and told me that his teacher had told him his family is a dirty word. No child should ever hear that, especially not from a teacher he trusted and respected.”
Marcus McLaurin was waiting in line to go to recess on November 11 at Ernest Gallet Elementary School when a classmate asked him about his mother and father. He responded that he didn’t have a mother and father; instead he has two mothers. When the other child asked why, Marcus told him that it was because his mother is gay. The other child then asked what that meant, and Marcus explained, “Gay is when a girl likes another girl.”
Upon hearing this, Marcus’s teacher scolded him in front of his classmates, telling him that “gay” is a bad word and he should never say it at school, then sent him to the principal’s office instead of letting him go to recess. The following week the school required Marcus to attend a special behavioral clinic at 6:45 in the morning, where he was forced to repeatedly write “I will never use the word ‘gay’ in school again.”
“To tell a 7-year-old boy that he can’t talk about his family not only makes that child feel confused and hurt – it violates his Constitutional right to free speech and equal treatment,” said Ken Choe, a staff attorney from the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project who is handling the matter. “At the ACLU we often deal with schools that mistreat treat gay children and children who have gay parents, but this is beyond the pale.”
On a student behavior contract form that Marcus had to fill out and give to his mother about the incident, Marcus wrote that the thing he did wrong was that he “sed bad wurds.” A handwritten note at the top of the form from Marcus’s teacher further explains: “He explained to another child that you are gay and what being gay means.” On a behavior report form signed by the assistant principal, the teacher wrote, “Marcus decided to explain to another child in his group that his mom is gay. He told the other child that gay is when a girl likes a girl. This kind of discussion is not acceptable in my room. I feel that parents should explain things of this nature to their own children in their own way.” The forms can be viewed online at http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.cfm?ID=14478&c=104 and http://www.aclu.org/LesbianGayRights/LesbianGayRights.cfm?ID=14480&c=104.
“Of course we believe that parents should be the ones who talk with small children about things like sex, but Marcus McLaurin’s school seems to think that he was talking about sex when all he was talking about was his two mothers,” said Joe Cook, Executive Director of the ACLU of Louisiana. “The fact is that there are children of lesbian and gay parents in schools throughout Louisiana, and those children have the same right as any other children to talk about their families.”
In its letter to the principal of Ernest Gallet Elementary School, the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project and the ACLU of Louisiana demand that the school remove all mentions of the incident from Marcus’s disciplinary record and refrain from restricting his speech in the future, and offer apologies to Marcus and his mother.
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