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Registered: February 08, 2003
Posts: 1472
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quote: I deserve it. people always hurt me ever touching me where I don't want to be touch, saying things I don't want to hear, or just messing with my emotiomms and guess what i derserve all that pain.
quote: I just deserve it................okay
Never mind why, it doesn't matter.
teddy, u don't deserve it! we're your friends, if u need anything, just tell us. we're always gonna be there for u.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: I just deserve it................okay
Never mind why, it doesn't matter.
yes it does matter, I don't want to make you say anything you don't want to, but what makes you feel this way??? if it matters to no one else, it matters to me...
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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I just deserve it................okay
Never mind why, it doesn't matter.
I have such a headache
Did I say sorry to Anshibabe?I know you thinks I think it's your fault. Never said that but I do understand why you could have misread that. Really it's not your fault, it's not no girl's or boy's fault when they get raped. I never said they deserve it, that makes me cry that you would think that but again I know why you think that. But, I didn't mean that.
I meant all for me and me ONLY.
That's all
Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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I respect the courage you have to freely talk about this issue...truly brave, more girls need to. quote: my boyfried loves me twice as much because i was honest with him in the beginning. i am totally scared of men too!
I understand this point to the fullest, as a male I dated a girl who had been molested. I did not know, she was always sort of skiddish and pulling away from me. We broke up of course, and it felt really bad, I liked her alot and blamed myself for our break up. If she had just told me, I could have seen myself saying something like well I guess I'll have to love you twice as much then....
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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Teddy  that really makes me feel bad.... why do you think you deserve it? hope your operation went well..
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Registered: April 15, 2003
Posts: 1396
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1) Like you said, you just got out of an operation... don't apologize for typos.
2) Teddy, you don't deserve to get raped, abused, etc. From what I've seen on you on the boards, you're not someone who deserves pain.
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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AnshiBabe,
I never said what he did to you was right. Raping anyone isn't right. I never said it was. I just said this girl deserved what happen to her. The girl IU'm talking about that hgot deserve to get raped.
Guess who this girl was:
ME
I deserve it. people always hurt me ever touching me where I don't want to be touch, saying things I don't want to hear, or just messing with my emotiomms and guess what i derserve all that pain.
That's all I was saying
byt you nor anyone else doesn't deserve it. I'm the only obe
Well bye n have abuve day
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Registered: March 15, 2003
Posts: 16
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teddy, i did not lay on the couch, open my legs and say "go ahead, i'll press charges when i feel like it!" i avoided my froiends house as MUCHas possible, but my mom would drag me over there and make me stay while she was in school (and she did NOT know it was happining!) so why would i deserve it!?!??!?!?!?! no body ever deserves anything like this! and i'm positive he's done this before, and that person (girl of guy) was to afraid. my friend and i needed to tell, we even think he did this to his own DAUGHTER! but she won't say because she's a big daddy's girl. we know that if something dosen't happen in this case, we will do everything in our powers to make his life a LIVING hell...and don't doubt me...i have ways. and teddy, you can't just "let Go" of something like that. it's with you forever. i have to get married and tell my husband/fiance that "hey, i'm not a virgin!" and i would be obligated to say somehting like that because its honest. right now, my boyfried loves me twice as much because i was honest with him in the beginning. i am totally scared of men too! i am constantly looking over my shoulder praying he won't be there witha gun in my face and everytime i see a (i'll say this loosly) a full figured man with a mustache, i have to look again to make sure it's not him. when all this went down, he tried his luck many times and i was horrified everytime i saw him. it's not so bad now, i only see him in court so he can't hurt me there, but he hasn't looked me in the eyes everytime i do see him. i want him to look me in the eyes, i want to see if he's hurt by this or just putting on an act. ok...i'm done ranting...time to get ready for bed...g nite all!
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Registered: May 18, 2002
Posts: 1111
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Teddy, if there is something you do not like about yourself then you can do something about it. You have that ability more than anyone else, right? You are in charge of you. I refuse to believe you're a bad person but if there's something specific that really damages your opinion of yourself, well, berating yourself about it is not going to make one iota of difference, you will just feel more cr.appy. I get the impression you think you need to stick up for yourself (and your friends do too) so why don't you start? A lot of people lack confidence, particularly as teenagers, and I'm not saying it's easy but you have the self-awareness here to do something about it. Like, speak out if you don't agree with something. You seem so fearful of that but have you ever tried it? You talk about how much you hate yourself like it's a situation you can't alter. That's ridiculous! This is YOU we're talking about, right? So what are you doing feeling miserable about yourself? Not saying you have a duty to be 100% confident with glowing self-esteem but you do have some say in what you're like and the way you conduct yourself. You can be anything you want to be!
I mean, you have unusually low self-esteem and I think maybe if you talk to someone about it could help, like maybe there's a deeper reason for it. But there are things you can do yourself, like start building up a little assertiveness. Your opinions matter just as much as anyone else's, you don't need to have this inferiority complex.
… Right, pep talk over.
I say this girl should definitely speak out if she thinks this guy could hurt someone again. But if she really believes he's safe now it's up to her whether she feels any need to speak out against him. If he did something horrendous like rape this girl, I refuse to believe he didn't know what he was doing. People are aware of their actions by 14. But I don't know what the situation was. I think people who molest children deserve jail time, but it depends on whether it would make anything better and also on the situation. Again I stress if he's a danger to anyone this girl should really be considering telling someone what he did. If not, well, only she can decide what she wants to do.
Bex
P.S I'd recommend reading 'America is Me' if anyone's interested in the subject of child molestation or abuse - it's a great read and really interesting too. Plus it's authentic, even though it's fictional, as the author has counselled people who have been abused and knows what she's talking about. It's a really great book.
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Why doesesn't she deserve it? You don't know her so how do you know she doesn't deserve it? I think if someone reads the last post I made they will think I'm pro-rapist(If there is something like that), I really am not. I would probably shoot a rapist with a BB gun right where it hurt so they won't be usisg that again. Or one of those weapons Robin Hood used, now those are pretty cool. Or sais but I don't know how to use them and if you don't use them right you might kill the guy and I don't want to do that, I just want him to cry, LoL. Maybe I'm overacted, if I knew a rapist or anyone who would cause harm to anyone, I probably would just stand there like an idiot and not tell anyone. I mean I did that a couple of times so who says I would do it again? But, to make this clear to anyone who will think I do, yea I'm not for the raping thing. I just would be too scared to do anything which that's bad too, but I know I would be too scared. If my friends saw this, they probably would slap me a couple of times in the face and say "you need to stand up for yourself. don't let people push you around." I don't know, I'm just upset at that girl I'm talking about. She is stupid. I hate her.  Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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I can't agree with that, I don't know what happend or why...
but if it doesn't bother her, then I guess she wouldn't press charges.
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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It doesn't effect this girl I'm talking about. She deserved what happen to her and it was all her fault. Nothing is holding on to her, she could let go any time she wants but she doesn't want to because she is a loser like that. No one else deserves that to happen to them BUT for this one girl, she deserve it. It doesn't bother her, she doesn't feel dirty, wrong, ugly, stupid, it doesn't bother her at all. She doesn't think about it, she doesn't cry.
It's all her fault, that's all I wanted to say.
She's happy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yea Billy sorry that you hurt yourself, glad you feel better though.
Okay bye N have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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Sometimes they hold on to you, I have things I will never forget, things that were never my choice. Things even to this day, people who are close to me will tell me they can see the evil. I was never molested, but I do have behavior that has never left from my childhood. When someone tells you it doesn't effect them, they are only trying to fool themselves....and child abusers, molestors and pretty much anyone who takes their misery out on people weaker then them, should PAY.
sorry for not answering sooner, I sort of got hurt this weak and couldn't use the computer..
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Registered: March 31, 2003
Posts: 6
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The truth is they should be punished. Ive been molested before it went on for 2 years and when I told somone "it was too late". And yes it DOES affect someone for life I cant look at men the same NE more Also the scare that it gives you can affect your sexual life its hard to deal with and I cant even stand to drive by this mans house even tho he doesnt live there Ne more. Ive also been raped and I got pregnant with that mans kids.I am 16 years old and I have a little girl and boy(twins) so Now tell me it doesnt have an impact on my life.
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Registered: May 18, 2002
Posts: 1111
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Teddy: I guess only you can judge if this guy needs jail time, I'm guessing it's someone you know. Do you think he has the potential to do it again? You have to be sure he's not going to endanger people. And it wasn't the girl's fault. How could it possibly be her fault that she's molested by some guy?  This is part of what makes molesting children so bad, they probably have no real idea of what's being done to them or how to get someone to back off. I mean I haven't had any experience of it myself so I dunno how qualified I am to talk about it but I've read a few books… and shame and self-blame came into it but it wasn't their fault. You have to know that! Bex
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Registered: March 15, 2003
Posts: 16
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just to clear something up...he's 45, he goes to church, i believe he knows the diff between right and wrong....for him 14 and 21 are like ancient history....good, now thats all clear, i'm going to bed.... night and GB, Shay
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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I have more to say but I'm tired, I need food and my hands are cold so I can't type.
Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: December 29, 2002
Posts: 1854
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Well, he hasn't changed this girl's life forever. She tries not to think about it and she tries telling herself that he didn't know and it wasn't his fault. She tells herself that it was her fault and it happen a long time ago. No big deal. But, yea sometimes that doesn't work but you have to let go some time or another.
What's the point in holding onto things?
Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: So do you think he who did something a long time ago should be punish too?
What happens when they can't prove it because it happen a long time ago?
ok I see what you are saying, yes I believe you need to pay for your crimes no matter when you did them. It's not like saying I hit a kid in the mouth once or I stole a candy bar. This person has forever changed the life of another human being. Although, in our society there has to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and proving something happend 6 or 7 years ago is not easy
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Registered: March 08, 2003
Posts: 2426
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quote: Paedophiles and rapists - what they do is evil and wrong, but does our attitude towards them stop them from getting help?
That is a croc!! Everyone knows there is Doctor patient confidentiality!!!! Let me tell you about a guy I know who had a son, his son and his friends used to play outside in the front yard. One day a pedophile moved in across the street, this guy sat outside salivating while watching these kids play. This guy I know warned him more then once not to watch his kid, the guy kept doing it. So one day this guy I know walks over and beats the living god out of this man....and I applaude him!! I would do the same thing if a known molester was eyeing my kid.........sorry I don't understand wanting to help these people, I just don't think they deserve it..
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