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Picture of bextherex
Registered: May 18, 2002
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I read in an article an account of a guy who knew he had urges to commit acts of paedophilia. He knew it was wrong and he wanted to get help, but he was too scared to go to a doctor or psychiatrist about it because he was terrified of their reaction and what would happen to him. I forget exactly what happened but I think he went to jail because he gave in to it. It's an interesting perspective on it . Paedophiles and rapists - what they do is evil and wrong, but does our attitude towards them stop them from getting help? For example in the British media there was a Name and Shame campaign, aiming to uncover paedophiles or ex-paedophiles and print their photographs in the paper. It was terrible because the public sought them out and surrounded their houses, throwing stones - and it was discovered that the newspaper had got some of them wrong and innocent people were being attacked. I mean with those kind of things going on, if someone with a really twisted problem, like if they thought they had the potential to commit an act of paedophilia, did want to get help, they'd be risking their ability to live in safety.

But I think that guy should have got help no matter how scared he was, or had more self-control. Abuse can scar paople for years or even for life, make them feel guilty, ashamed and worthless, and abusing a child is taking advantage of their innocence in the worst way. Thankfully I've never been abused by anyone, but I can only imagine the effect it could have.

Oh yeah, and that guy should get more than a few months!

Bex
Registered: December 29, 2002
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okay what if this 14 year old boy is now 21? No one did anything when he was younger, when he was actually doing that to that girl, no one send him to juvenille detention.

So do you think he who did something a long time ago should be punish too?

What happens when they can't prove it because it happen a long time ago?

I'm just asking you, I want to know your answer

Yea I agree with you. I live somewhere where there's a lot of gangs, shoot outs, drugs, sex and ect. ect. But, it's better than actually living in the projects way better.

Bye N have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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But do you think a 14 year old boy should go to jail for doing that to a young girl?


If they rape a girl, they should go to juvenille detention at the very least. I don't know where you are from, but I have seen 14 year old boys pick up Mack 10s and take out a crowd of people.
People need to be responsible for their own actions....
Registered: December 29, 2002
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Your right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But do you think a 14 year old boy should go to jail for doing that to a young girl?

I'm asking a question, I'm not proving you wrong. I agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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Did you mean that in a way that you were agreeing with me or did you mean that in a way that you were disagreeing with me?

Well, all I was saying is that sometimes some people don't really know what they are doing is wrong and to me I don't think that those people
need jail time for something that they don't even know is wrong.



You are studying to be a Psychiatrist aren't you?
I have this same argument with my girlfriend, who is more into people like Manson and what makes them tick.

My view is hang em' high!! We don't need to figure out why they did it, we just need to end it. I have no mercy for rapists and murders. And I don't care if I can prove if they knew at the time it was bad(of course it is)!!! That is what is wrong with the legal process. Did Geoffrey Dahmer really need to have a trial? He had peoples heads in the freezer and body parts in his tub. And he should have got the death penalty, luckily someone in prison took care of it.

I have no sympathy for any of these sikos, and I wish this country would stop being so liberal about these type of people. They are garbage on the sidewalks of humanity....

by the way, I was disagreeing with you Smile

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who got aduse himself at a young age and knows nothing else but aduse to jail for something he did a long time ago


YES! I knew nothing but abuse when I grew up, I haven't seen my parents since I was 15, because I ran away. I did not go out and kill and rape people....it is wrong, no matter how you look at it!!
Registered: December 29, 2002
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Teddy...you are out there...


Did you mean that in a way that you were agreeing with me or did you mean that in a way that you were disagreeing with me?

Well, all I was saying is that sometimes some people don't really know what they are doing is wrong and to me I don't think that those people
need jail time for something that they don't even know is wrong.

They need HELP more than jail time. I think anyone who rapes kids or adults even need help more than jail time.

Well, actually if the person knew what he/she was doing was in fact wrong then they don't deserve help, they deserve to be in jail.

But, all I was saying is that not all people know what they are doing is wrong or sometimes they know but honestly they can't control it, I bet they try to but they can't. Those people (I believe) need help more than jail time.

That's all I was saying. But, I understand why you would think the opposite. But, lets say I know someone who can't think the opposite like you do because this someone encounterd someone who didn't know what he was doing was wrong and he was only a teenager at the time so should this someone send a 14 year old boy now 21, who got aduse himself at a young age and knows nothing else but aduse to jail for something he did a long time ago and this someone thinks, no, knows he didn't know what he was doing.

Should this someone send that person to jail?

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If someone does that to my kid, I have help for them....plenty of it and I promise they will never do it again


You would make a good father protecting your daugther or even son from that ever happening to them but not all families are the same and not all families grew up with their father.

Bye N have a nice day
Picture of cosmicdream
Registered: February 08, 2003
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couple days in the jail, and like what BillyBarrio said, get some help!!!
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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I don't think they need jail time. They need to be somewhere and get some serious help.



If someone does that to my kid, I have help for them....plenty of it and I promise they will never do it again Smile
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Registered: February 26, 2003
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Hey- pervs need a good kick in the nuts- maybe then they won't get it up! Razz
Registered: March 15, 2003
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thank you guys for agreeing w/ me about more years, he keeps making excuses to drag the case out so we won't know until past april 30th......over a freaking year from when we filed this whole stupid thing! can i find him and kick him in the balls?
Registered: January 30, 2002
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Well honestly I have dealt wiht way to amny situations like this one and the one thing that I did not see you post was, did you testify against him in a court room? Because if you did not then that is the only reason that I have ever hear as to why sicko's only get a few months. Frown
Registered: December 29, 2002
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I don't think they need jail time. They need to be somewhere and get some serious help. That's a problem that they may not be able to control. Yea, there are some people who rape kids who know what they are doing is wrong but do it anyways, those people deserve jail time. But there are some people who don't want to do it and they want and need help because they can't control it and stop themselves from doing it. Also some may not know really it's wrong to that so they can't stop themselves

At least I think those people need help instead of going to jail and the people who actually wanted to rape little kids deserve life in jail

But you can't find out who wanted to rape kids and who didn't want to rape kids so I think it's easeier for of them to get help and be locked up somewhere away from people.

This man sounds like he knew what he was doing so I think he deserve life in jail.

Bye N Have a nice day
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Registered: February 26, 2003
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forget 20 years- life.
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Registered: February 26, 2003
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Molestation is a kind of death for the one being abused- death of innocence, of hope- and 4.5 months isn't what you should have if you do this to a child. I say 20 years- or life.
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