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Picture of Kharybdis
Registered: April 15, 2003
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This thread is an abortion.


Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
Picture of Shade
Registered: December 27, 2006
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She could also be killing the next Jack the Ripper.

*clears throat* From Hell is one of the best movies ever. Second only to Lawrence of Arabia, Lord of the Rings, and the World's Fastest Indian. ( and probably Pan's Labyrinth, which I command myself to love )


...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
Picture of aaathreat
Registered: September 06, 2005
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even if a child's going to be unloved...that doesn't mean it can't do great things for this world. I mean, when a woman's having an abortion she could be killing the next albert einstein. who knows?!


<3 "War is not the answer" "Where is the love?" <3
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Registered: January 15, 2006
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Or something evil.


Which is why I said "On the other hand...it might not." As I already said, I don't know my position on abortion. So I think I'll just stay out of this debate.


And I would never feel pain / and never be without pleasure, ever, again / and if the reign stops, and everything's dry, he would cry just so I could drink the tears from his eyes...
Picture of Shade
Registered: December 27, 2006
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Sydney, everyone in this world suffers. A wise man said the other day: without Strife, no one would strive.


...a Wandering Star for whom the black darkness has been reserved forever...
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Registered: January 23, 2007
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If a baby is going to be unloved anyway, its better to kill it before its born so it doesn't have to live in this world and suffer.


God isn't dead... he just never existed.
Picture of aaathreat
Registered: September 06, 2005
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The problem with abortions is lots of women do them for stupid reasons when they could be putting up a baby for adoption instead. Of course, they don't realize it until they've already had the adoption and they're all like oops! I believe the happy medium ur looking for is OPEN ADOPTION if you want to end up seeing your kid again or CLOSED adoption if you don't...:-)


<3 "War is not the answer" "Where is the love?" <3
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Registered: January 16, 2004
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Hypothetical situations make poor arguments, as do emotional appeals. I'd stick with these boards if their arguments were based upon logic.


L'enfer, c'est les autres. -Jean-Paul Sartre
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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And what Ikki said is true. The adoption centers in America need tons of help. So instead of the government foing to all the trouble to decide if abortion should be legal, they should put some effort into making the other options better.



And yet, no one is willing to find a "happy" medium. The group that I'm in on myspace that was founded to FIND the medium and work to end abortions and unwanted pregnancies, and to improve women's health and opportunities for things like childcare? It seems to have become a pro-life v pro-choice debate group.


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Registered: November 27, 2004
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God I love this thread... even though you just constantly go around in circles and everysingle argument has already been made and argued and everything, it's still great. It always gets me laughing. like with this:
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The baby could be something great.


You gotta' admit that's pretty funny.


Democracy is the recurrent suspicion that more than half of the people are right more than half of the time. - E.B.White
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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Hm, I don't think that we are anyone to tell a rape victim to go through the pregnancy or force them. I for one have never been in that situation, and so I am no one to say that they should go through it. People who do I think are amazingly strong.


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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What they went through was horrible, but I still don't think it justifies taking a life. Or what could be a life.

And what Ikki said is true. The adoption centers in America need tons of help. So instead of the government foing to all the trouble to decide if abortion should be legal, they should put some effort into making the other options better.


It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
Picture of YouthVoice
Registered: January 16, 2003
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I'm against it, even in the case of rape.


I don't know. This seems rather harsh to me. What about the rape victim and their trauma? Why make them go through all that?


"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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The child could be put up for adoption.



See, here's the thing about adoption (for me at least). People always argue that adoption should be the alternative for abortion because there are many couples waiting to adopt. However, there are over 100,000 children, under the age of 16, who are waiting to be adopted. (As of 2005.) I've never understood why couples insist on babies when the children needing to be adopted usually don't need diapers changed.


Source: http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/trends.htm


Picture of Kharybdis
Registered: April 15, 2003
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It's hard to be a dead child if you were never a child to begin with.


Those who profess to favor freedom and yet depreciate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the roar of its many waters. Frederick Douglass
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Registered: May 18, 2006
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And being an unwanted child isn't punishment?

Being a dead child certainly is a punisment. The child could be put up for adoption.


It must be lovely to wake up in the morning and understand everything.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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The baby could be something great.



Or something evil.


Picture of Capricorn_09
Registered: January 15, 2006
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Oh wait, that might be to mean


You can never be too mean.

Hmm...I have mixed feelings about abortions. It would suck to be an unwanted child, but then again the child could grow up to be someone important. On the other hand...they might not. And the mother would go through life wondering what would have happened to their child, or what they would have been. One or two lives could get ruined. The baby could be something great. You just never know. I really don't know if I'm for or against abortions...


And I would never feel pain / and never be without pleasure, ever, again / and if the reign stops, and everything's dry, he would cry just so I could drink the tears from his eyes...
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Registered: October 28, 2005
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Clpo, you should do that after some newb gives a speech about how their mom was going to give them up for abortions, ect, ect...

Oh wait, that might be to mean.


draft beer not soldiers...
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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Every time I see this thread I just want to burst in and say "Yay abortions!"

But I won't. Wait, I already did.

Dang.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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