I challenge any of you who support abortion, to actually watch an actual abortion! go to www.silentscream.org, and go to videos. Now if you watch this and you still think abortion is okay. Then you can tell me Im wrong, but this should change your mind!

If my mom chose to have me aborted, I wouldn't be asking myself that question. It's pointless to wonder "What would you think if your mom aborted you" because you wouldn't be thinking at all.

You may not like abortions and that's fine. But there are many reasons people want (or need) to have them. It's not always because they didn't want to get pregnant.

If so many people didn't have sex on such a constant basis, it wouldn't be a problem. If people now-a-days would learn to use condoms, it wouldn't be a problem. There are simply people out there you have abortion after abortion because they don't choose to wear condoms because they aren't the cool thing to do or are just plain lazy. A 12 week baby can feel pain. Within 20 days, the baby has a heartbeat. The baby is given the necessaties to survive. You are taking away the right for a baby to live. The right to life. You are going against the constitution and taking away the baby's rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. Why is it fair to kill them, just because they can't stand up for themselves, and say they want to live?

Although sometimes wrong, surely it is kinder to have an abortion rather that have a baby and mistreat it, neglect it, or suffer depression because you dont actually want the baby? But on the otherhand, there are countless people out there who would die for a baby so it seems a little selfish. i quess it depends on the circumstances..

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Originally posted by uptowngirl904:

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How would you feel if your mom had an abortion while you were inside her? Have you even thought about that? You wouldn't be able to argue with all these people right now.

In an ironic way, it should make you happier, because there'd be one less person against your cause.

LOL. I was thinking the exact same.

No , no it's not murder.

Definition of murder:
Murder: Law. the killing of another human being under conditions specifically covered in law. In the U.S., special statutory definitions include murder committed with malice aforethought, characterized by deliberation or premeditation or occurring during the commission of another serious crime, as robbery or arson (first-degree murder), and murder by intent but without deliberation or premeditation (second-degree murder).

(4 Things A Crime Must Contain)

1. Intention; (purpose)
2. Knowledge;
3. Recklessness sometimes termed willful blindness which may have a different interpretation in the United States; or
4. Negligence.


That is murder, get the facts straight.

I'm pro-life.

But some of you are talking about dropping the rate of unwanted children but maybe if some people actually tried to prevent pregnancy and actually thought about what could happen before the actually have sex, I don't think we would have such a high rate of unwanted children.

abortion is murder. your killing something that was ment to be on earth.

I agree that it's murder, and terrible, but won't it be just as terrible if the mother dies because she had a child?

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There are too many deaths of babies right now in the world today. Do we really want to add on to that number?

No. And the only true way we can stop this is if people stop having so many children. THERE ARE TO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS PLANET!
When I take over the world, I will make this one of my top problems to solve. HA HA HA HA HA!!

In my opinion, abortion is murder, no matter what situation you are in. If you are raped, then the child should still be born, at least to have a place in this world. There are many other options instead of abortion, like adoption. A sick story is that in India, for 80 cents, a birth mother can be hired to deliver the baby (if and only if it's a girl), and for 80 more cents, the birth mother will be hired to hand the baby girl upside down and break the spine, therefore killing the baby and pronouncing it as still-born. There are too many deaths of babies right now in the world today. Do we really want to add on to that number?

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I don't think abortion is okay, unless you unwillingy had intercourse with a man ang got pregnant."

"What's the difference? Wouldn't abortion still be murder either way?

I'm just curious: Why do you believe that it is murder but allow it in certain situations? Isn't that kind of
hypocritical, or is there something I'm not seeing?"

"You are right. It is wrong to beleive that abortion is OK in cases of rape and incest. Murder is murder.
this is why I am against abortions in ALL situations."

I disagree. I know it's still murder, and it's horrible, but in some cases, having a child might cause the death of the mother as well.
My sister once took in an 18-year-old homeless girl. Her mother had been a drug adict, so she and her sibilings and her were sent to live with their aunt, who would kick them out each winter so she didn't have to buy them christmas presents.
Later, when she was kicked out for good, she became homeless. When she was 17, she was raped, she had no money, and could not find work. It was a miricle that my sister found her before she was able to get an abortion. But think if my sister didn't find her, and she didn't get an abortion? What would she do? She might have died trying to keep the baby alive, and then of coarse the baby would have died. I know that's why there are orphanages, but what if no one adopted that child? and then they ended up homeless as well? It would be a cycle.
I am happy to say though, that that girl did have a healthy baby boy, who is now three. They girl now has an apartment and a job. She also was able to graduate high school, which she had dropped out of when she was kicked out of her aunts home.
But, yes, I agree, it's exceedingly wrong when the woman made that wrong decision, and could really afford to have that child. Even when she can't afford to have that baby, it's her fault, don't make the child suffer for her mistake.

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how many people here use some form of birth control? because isnt that murder too?

Birth control methods that do not destroy a fertilized egg are fine. Life begins at conception, not orgasm.

abortion is not murder. its a difficult decision and it doesnt help when (typically) religious individuals throw guilt trips onto the person making the decision. im not a fan of abortion but who am i to tell a woman what she is or is not allowed to do. if she believe that abortion is the right way for her, how can i be so arrogant as to tell her that it isnt. and that video is exactly what i mean by guilting your point across. yes its horrifying, but i dont think that heart-surgery is that pretty either, so why dont we stop that too? how many people here use some form of birth control? because isnt that murder too? its destroying the potential for life, just like abortion is. so i suppose we should outlaw contraceptives too, huh?

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Bushsupporter:
If something is wrong, something is wrong.

How do you know something is wrong, though?

I personally beleive it is wrong. I am not prepared to debate why quite yet. What I was saying is that it is inconsistent to allow abortions in the case of rape and incest simply because there are victims of terrible things involved. If it is a human life that should not be ended, then one must be consistent with that belief.

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Bushsupporter:
If something is wrong, something is wrong.

How do you know something is wrong, though?

Abortion is always going to be a sticky subject... and its always going to be debated with good arguements on both sides.

I personally wouldn't have an abortion, but I have a close friend who would have no problems with it. I think its a personal choice based on personal beleifs, if in your mind you really believe you're killing a baby when you have an abortion then you're going to have to live with that guilt for the rest of your life. But another person in a different situation may not see having an abortion as killing a child, so they won't feel guilty about it.

I think debating abortion is pointless, people are going to do what they're going to do... and they've been doing it for thousands of years whether in secret or out in the open.

Sometimes people just have accept that other people may view reality in a bit different view than they do.

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Why is it people bitch about abortions when hundreds of thousands of animals are slaughtered and abused every year?

People bitch about the animals, too.

Some people put human life above animals. Others put animal life above humans. It's how things are.

Why is it people bitch about abortions when hundreds of thousands of animals are slaughtered and abused every year? We're willing to torture, inject hormones and kill living, breathing creatures but when a woman aborts a half-alive fetus because she made one mistake it's murder....

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I don't think abortion is okay, unless you unwillingy had intercourse with a man ang got pregnant.

What's the difference? Wouldn't abortion still be murder either way?

I'm just curious: Why do you believe that it is murder but allow it in certain situations? Isn't that kind of hypocritical, or is there something I'm not seeing?

You are right. It is wrong to beleive that abortion is OK in cases of rape and incest. Murder is murder. This is why I am against abortions in ALL situations.

It is the same thing as when you ask a woman, "would you ever get an abortion, why not?" And she replies "No, of course not, I would never do it because it is just wrong to kill you baby...but I don't have right to tell other people what to do." If something is wrong, something is wrong.