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Picture of QueenOfHell
Registered: April 23, 2005
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And yes it is my business to see to it that a life is given, not taken


But are you getting an abortion? I don't think so. Though the fetus has different genes and all that crap, it's still attached to her. It's like having a mole removed. The mole may have a spine and teeth but we can get it off.


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The BABY, (which is living, breating, human!)


It's a fetus. It isn't breathing. The MOTHER breathes and the oxygen then gets to the fetusthrough HER. So if the mother were to die, so would the fetus. If the fetus was breathing on it's own, it would keep breathing inside the mother.

Who are you to say that someone MUST to go through with having a child? Are you some kind of "special" person who decides what a woman can or can't do?


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
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Registered: November 30, 2004
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Abortion is the termination of pregnancy. And by saying abortion is wrong, you're saying miscarriages are wrong too.

If you're smart you'll see that it's none of your business what a woman does to herself. Since the baby is ATTACHED to her, she decides what happens NOT you.


Abortion is the INDUCED terminiation. A miscarriage is an act that isn't done to intentionally butcher the baby.

The BABY, (which is living, breating, human!) Might be attached the "mother" but it is it's own body, with it's own genetic codes and all which makes it a completely different person from the mother. And yes it is my business to see to it that a life is given, not taken. Just as it is for people to help solve murder cases.


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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Registered: April 23, 2005
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You define murder what you want. If it was legal to kill someone who cut you off in traffic would it still be wrong to kill them. To you is right or wrong defined by the laws we have which have considerable flaws proven by the fact that many are continually updated and changed. If you kill an innocent person in "cold blood", you murdered them. What needs to be defined is whether or not they are alive.


As you said, I can define it. I did. And I have a dictionary definition. It may be killing, but it is not murder because IT IS LEGAL. The UNLAWFUL killing of one being by another. And yes it would be wrong to kill an already living person.

And no one use the Bible seeing that the Bible says:

And then he breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.

Fetuses do not breathe on their own. And no one knows if we have 'souls'

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Abortion IS murder. We are called pro-LIFE for a reason. If you're smart, you'll figure out why.


Abortion is the termination of pregnancy. And by saying abortion is wrong, you're saying miscarriages are wrong too.

If you're smart you'll see that it's none of your business what a woman does to herself. Since the baby is ATTACHED to her, she decides what happens NOT you.


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
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Registered: November 30, 2004
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Abortion IS murder. We are called pro-LIFE for a reason. If you're smart, you'll figure out why.


"I Dream away everyday, Try so hard to disregard The rhythm of t he rain that drops, And coincides with the beating of my heart"
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Registered: May 23, 2005
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I'm sick of people saying abortion is murder when murder means:
The UNLAWFUL killing of one living being by another.

Abortions are lawful.


You define murder what you want. If it was legal to kill someone who cut you off in traffic would it still be wrong to kill them. To you is right or wrong defined by the laws we have which have considerable flaws proven by the fact that many are continually updated and changed. If you kill an innocent person in "cold blood", you murdered them. What needs to be defined is whether or not they are alive.


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
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Registered: April 23, 2005
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murder to kill it


I'm sick of people saying abortion is murder when murder means:
The UNLAWFUL killing of one living being by another.

Abortions are lawful.


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
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Registered: May 23, 2005
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Did you know that if you shot and killed a pregnant women, it would be considered a double homicide. But if you go and get an abortion, which is killing a a helpless baby, then it perfectly legal.

I'm against abortion in most cases, except for things like rape and severally defected babies that would have no chance of a decent life.


By the first statement i thought that you valued the child as a life but then your second statement is what i question. If a child from conception is a human life then it is murder to kill it regardless of circumstances.


When God speaks, reason must be silent. - Martin Luther
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Registered: April 23, 2005
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Personally, I think that if women go out and have unsafe sex, then I think they need to accept the results of their actions. If you don't want to get pregnant, then use a condom or the pill. There are so many ways to prevent pregnancy, I can't see why people insit on using abortion as an option.


All sex is unsafe sex.

Condom: Hole
Pill: missed day
diaphragm: not enough spermicide/ Not in correctly

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Did you know that if you shot and killed a pregnant women, it would be considered a double homicide. But if you go and get an abortion, which is killing a a helpless baby, then it perfectly legal


only if the woman is in the second trimester. And that's murder either way.


Don't see Star Wars, it sucks the intelligence out of you
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