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Picture of Softball_chica08
Registered: December 19, 2004
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I am going to agree with yogore. But I dont know if the point I am going to make right now is going to connect with what he said at all. But what if the mother couldnt take care of the child. And she had the kid and just left it off in a garbage can or something...A baby can't care for itself. Just like a fetus can't. I'm still pretty undecided about the whole matter. I can see things from both sides...


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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This is where are opinions differ. BEcause it can't depend on anyone except the mother, it's the mother's decision if she wants to take care of this parasite, which it escencially is.

If it can't live on its own, it is not the same as a person.


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Registered: November 30, 2004
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It is still a human being, maybe not developed but it still is a human life form. Aborting it is killing it.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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A fetus is not born. A fetus is not the same qas a person. It has not taken part in normal life and cnanot live on its own. Its only source of support could possibly be the mother.


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Registered: November 30, 2004
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No matter what yogore, it is ending a human life no matter when it is done in the pregnancy and that is murder.


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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how is it different, is it better to kill a 4 year old then a 40 year old... no it is the same thing, MURDER. it doesn't matter how old the fetus is it is still a child
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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It is not the same as murder. Differences have been layed out.

A fetus is not yet born. And it depends what part of the pregnancy we are talking about. AN abortion late in the third trimester is much different than an abortion early in the first.


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Registered: November 30, 2004
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Originally posted by oppinionted:
who knows what the child could grow up to become but this still doesn't give anyone the right to murder the child. and yes it is murder there is no way around the truth no matter how you look at it you are kiling a child, a human being, and if the government had any dignity at all they would give anyone that has had or performed an abortion the death penalty or at least life in prison
Well said Oppinionted. That's the way I feel and what I've been saying all along Smile


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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who knows what the child could grow up to become but this still doesn't give anyone the right to murder the child. and yes it is murder there is no way around the truth no matter how you look at it you are kiling a child, a human being, and if the government had any dignity at all they would give anyone that has had or performed an abortion the death penalty or at least life in prison
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Registered: November 30, 2004
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So we meet again Yogore. Smile
Well Being alive and seeing all the beautys that life can bestow is great and wonderful, I'm sure to alot of people. Granted not all people feel this way but I know that I'm thankful for my imperfect life.


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Registered: February 02, 2004
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the child would at least be able to grow up and live.think about how different our lives would be if President Bush's mother had an abortion. who knows how the children that have been murdered could have benefitted our country
Who knows how the children that have been afforded could have hurt the country. They could be terrorists or the next hitler just as much as they could be good people. Mentioning president Bush's mother having an abortion doesn't make me not want to support abortion...

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Better then not living at all!
That's your opinion. you don't know that living is better than not living.


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Registered: November 30, 2004
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Originally posted by bauhaus:
wow living in foster homes kick ***!
Better then not living at all!


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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the child would at least be able to grow up and live.think about how different our lives would be if President Bush's mother had an abortion. who knows how the children that have been murdered could have benefitted our country
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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wow living in foster homes kick ***!


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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no the idea is that it has to mature inside the mother before it can withstand being outside
Picture of freedomordeath
Registered: June 02, 2004
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But would it survive at that point, outside of the womb?


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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an UNBORN person, you just made my point
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Registered: June 02, 2004
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Definition of child:

1 a : an unborn or recently born person b : dialect : a female infant
2 a : a young person especially between infancy and youth b : a childlike or childish person c : a person not yet of age
3 : usually childe /'chI(&)ld/ archaic : a youth of noble birth
4 a : a son or daughter of human parents b : DESCENDANT

But it seems like it would be a child that is close to birth.


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Registered: December 21, 2004
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the child should feel blessed that its mother loved it enough to keep it.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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have you thought how a child would feel knowing it killed its mother?


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