For everyone who is saying that using a condom or birth control is the same as abortion... It isn't! Abortion is killing a fetus... a human that is already there, and is beginning to look like a baby, and do things that babies do. Before the female is involved, there isn't any way that a baby can be made... so basically it's nothing that is left in a condom because a baby hasn't had a chance to "start" yet. Is the same thing sort of as people having sex and not using protection and still not getting pregnant. No body calls it murder when a couple is trying to have a baby and the females body isn't accepting and doesn't get pregnant. So, bottom line. Abortion is murder, it's wrong. And also, for those who keep saying that if a teen girl is raped and has an unwanted pregnancy then abortion should be alright... Yeah, nooo. There's always adoption because a mother shouldn't want to end the child's life because in a way that would be doing the same thing to a child, what was done to her. Ending a life... Give all babies a chance... They are people too, they are the future of this world. And adoption is always an option.

"Yes, it's true that by aborting a fetus a human being is being killed, but what if a woman became pregnant through rape as a teen?"

Many people seem to come back to this issue with rape. I don't know if they realize that not even 1% of the abortions are because of rape. And does that still mean you are for the mother to have the "choice" to abort the child even when she willingly had sex? This is all so simple, abortion is clearly killing and I have no idea why anyone is for it. How selfish are the mothers who have abortions. Take care of you child. what happened to the loving, caring mothers that would never let anything harm their children. Take responsibilty. And that goes for both parents.

Also, abortion with rape is still wrong. It is STILL a HUMAN BEING. I know the woman didn't mean to have it, but have some human decency and let the child be born and have a chance. Don't revert to the barbaric ways of the man who raped you by killing a child.

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You're saying abortion protects health? I seriously doubt that. It's more dangerous to have an abortion than it is to have natural labor. I don't see how abortion protects anything.

MTLBYAKY

Personally, I'm pro-choice. We all need to stop judging people who get abortions as murderers. Yes, it's true that by aborting a fetus a human being is being killed, but what if a woman became pregnant through rape as a teen? We'll never know what that choice is like until we're in the postion to get an abortion. I don't believe it's right to abort a baby just because the mother doesn't want it, but if she needs to to protect her health, or if the baby will die anyway, then it's that woman's choice. We have no right whatsoever to tell women what they can and cannot do with their bodies.
"My body, My choice!"

Pro-choice for life! Well, I only believe in abortion if the victim is not pregnant for more than three months - otherwise, the abortion is more dangerous.

Not really that idiotic. You're still denying something the potential to become a child... honey.

"but what if YOUR mother said when she was pregnant with you and perfectly healthy, not raped or anything like that and said: "Oh, I don't want to go through it, I'll just get an abortion." "
I stress the point that if my mother had an abortion, while she was pregnant with me, I would not be able to answer that question.

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Ok the religious right says that killing a fetus is murder and youre killing a child, pro choice people say that its the womans right to choose, they dont argue the same point therefore they can never come to a compromise on this matter.

Id still like to know why its just for a child to grow up in an enviorment where it can not be supported in.

but what if YOUR mother said when she was pregnant with you and perfectly healthy, not raped or anything like that and said: "Oh, I don't want to go through it, I'll just get an abortion." Damn. Only for rape/inscest/and if it will harm the mother.

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What do you think about birth control, thats killing a human life too? or condoms? where do you draw the line?

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That sounded quite idiotic, actually. You do know how the whole system of how creating a child works, don't you, young'un?

MTLBYAKY

I want to know why its just for the child to grow up an in enviorment where it cant be raised properly. So if one of you anti abortion people can answer this, thanks.

Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry! I am such a pedant, but its actually affected.


Sorry Sorry Sorry Sorry! Please don't think ill of me.

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Abortion never effected him...

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Unfortunately.

Also, on a side note, if you don't like abortion, don't get one! (If you're a girl by the way)

Don't let other women that want to have an abortion suffer.

Also, why does Bush care? Abortion never effected him...
-Sunset

Who sez? Bush?

This is not for George Bush to decide.
It is a womens body and a man should not decide this. I'm not saying 'yay for abortion' I just think that it should be a choice people have. If you don't want to have an abortion you shouldn't.
If you need one then do it. The people who belive in not having an abortion won't have on.
In some situations,it's necassary.

Gah, too many phucking abortion threads.

What do you think about birth control, thats killing a human life too? or condoms? where do you draw the line?

Im pro choice, here is my reason

the mom has a kid, the kid grows up in a bad situation, this will have a huge impact on the child. Ever hear the phrase, apple doesnt fall far from the tree? The cycle will continue.

I think its far worse putting someone through a horrible life, then ending it before it even started.

I'm surprised all you people on the right, are actually against abortion, the mom will end up going on welfare, taxes, and more social programs, more kids in schools, more consumption of natural resources, etc.


one of you said the kid will be different from the rapist? pshh how do you think the mom feels everytime she looks at the kid and thinks about that horrible expereince. What will the kid think when she tell them they got raped and thats how they were born.. or should the mom just lie to the kid?

Well i think that abortion is okay. Im not saying 'sure, don't use protection and use it as a form of birth control', BUT i think that in certain cases it is okay. Such as rape, my god, can you believe what it would be like to go through the trauma of rape, and then be forced to have the baby? I mean, sure, if you want to keep the baby then do so. But we have to think about this here.. I mean the baby could completely destroy the mother's body. especiallly if she is 11, 12 years old! and also, if the child is going to live a completely painful life in a closet somewhere, isnt it better to end the life before it begins? This may sound horrible to some people but think about it. There has been cases where people have discovered kids locked in closets where theyve been kept for thirteen years and tied to a chair. Its really like torture. And im not making this up. Has anyone heard of the case of 'Genie'? If you took any psych coursed in high school you may have. i think that abortion should be availble as a last resort kind of thing, i mean its better then killing yourself, or sticking a coat hanger up yourself.
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