First 2 weeks women can find out that they're pregnant. There is no brain the first 2 weeks.

Yes, they can be taught, but, they have to have a brain first.

She probably is lying. All I know is she was kicked out a few months after. I really haven't looked into it, it's none of my buisness.

They do contradict, first sentence was the truth. Second and third was the way I felt about it.

Korith, I was pregnant at 13, did I make the choice? No.

A lot of teens who get pregnant are not allowed to go to school. EVEN if they put the kid up for adoption. What a way to ruin a life. Even if they made a mistake by having sex, not all of them do.

Also, I'm not sure if I believe in God or not, but to the religions I were born into are Mormon, Christian, (Roman) Catholic and Luthern. Does that have anything to do with it?

All religions are mostly based off one another.
-Sunset

[This message was edited by Sunset on February 14, 2004 at 09:15 PM.]

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It is becoming a human, at the firt stage it isn't a human.

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The brain is one of the first things to develop.

So we are talk the first 3-5 weeks.

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Cells do not have a brain

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Single celled organisms CAN think.
Even be taught.

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My friend Amy was 'kicked out' of a orphanage when she was 16. I know what I'm talking about.

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Amy is lying to you if she said she just upped on her 16th birthday and get thrown out of her house.

I work with children from children homes everyday, I know what I am talking about too.

It is a very safe, very clean, very nice place, with nice people who's job is the well being if the children.

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Men do have some choices to the abortion. But, the way I see it. I will get an abortion no matter what the father says. That might sound selfish, but if it's taking up space in my body, it's my choice of what becomes of it.

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The first sentence contradicts the second & third.

Also, it is selfish. It is murder kind of selfish. Someone else’s life is such an inconvenience to you, that you are going to end it.

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That doesn't go against God in my book

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What religion are you?

Cells do not have a brain. We have a brain. It is becoming a human, at the firt stage it isn't a human. Eggs and sperms aren't human.

My friend Amy was 'kicked out' of a orphanage when she was 16. I know what I'm talking about.

Yes, some cases women do run off. I never said that didn't happen.

Men do have some choices to the abortion. But, the way I see it. I will get an abortion no matter what the father says. That might sound selfish, but if it's taking up space in my body, it's my choice of what becomes of it.

That doesn't go against God in my book.
-Sunset

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Shouldn't he be charged with murder too if he killed that person? And be killed?

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I think they, like soldiers, do what they are ordered to do, and under the law they are protected. So that is really apples and oranges.

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Korith, what does a fetus think?

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I am not a mind reader.

They are aware of their surroundings, react to noises and can feel when something touches it. It is also suggested they can sense danger like we do.

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It is just a block of cells.

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So are you.

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So, have more kids living in foster/orphanages that they're going to be kicked out of when they're 16?

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This is a Myth.

Very few children get to the age where they have to be "kicked out" of a adoption agency.

I know around 40 kids at a local children’s home who are very happy, and very happy to be alive.

The standard idea of an orphanage is a colorless building, with no heating and a lack of food.

The kids are being taken care of. And not killed.

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Men do get say, but not men who raped a women. Not them. But, if the man leaves the women who he got pregnant, the man also doesn't have a right.

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I know several men who lost their children because the MOTHER ran off, and she got an abortion.

So again Apples and Oranges.

And so it is ok for a man to have a say in what a woman can and cannot do with her body in some circumstances?

I'm a moron, I'm sorry Amaris, I didn't see your post.

I feel loved now.
-Sunset

Why is me bringing that up interesting?

So, you know the guy who pulls the handle to the electric chair? Shouldn't he be charged with murder too if he killed that person? And be killed?

All of it goes in a circle.

Korith, what does a fetus think? Nothing. They don't think 'Oh... mommy is eating.' or 'Mommy loves me.' It is just a block of cells.

Yes, other options. So, have more kids living in foster/orphanages that they're going to be kicked out of when they're 16? That isn't better for the child.

Men do get say, but not men who raped a women. Not them. But, if the man leaves the women who he got pregnant, the man also doesn't have a right.

Why should he? He is just leaving the child.
-Sunset

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More sarcasm.

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I resent that, Sunset! I was being serious. You are one of my favorites. (After Poncho, of course. HEY PONCHO!)

Okay. Sorry to interrupt. Get back to arguing about abortion.

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Also, people electrocute other people in prison, ect. does that make it murder? No.

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Interesting you would bring this up.

I DO consider it murder. How could I argue for the cause of life, if I support the death penalty.

However, when someone commits a crime they MUST suffer the consequences of their actions.

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So, why is abortion considered murder?

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Because children are alive in the womb, they can think, breathe, they need food to survive. They are human beings.

When you abort them, you kill them. And for what? Because it would inconvenience the mother? Are there no other options? What is to stop from making this true in any case. If someone in front of me in line is an inconvenience, why shouldn't I kill them?

What is the Value of human life to you?

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It's the womens body, we can do what we want with our bodies.

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Do men get no say in the future of the world? Or our children?

Korith, no that isn't the only reason why women are getting abortions. Common sense.

Some are selfish reasons, some aren't. But that doesn't make it wrong or bad.

People use God as an excuse, as an argument. It doesn't work that way.

It's the womens body, we can do what we want with our bodies.

Also, people electrocute other people in prison, ect. does that make it murder? No.

So, why is abortion considered murder?
-Sunset

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How is abortion horrible if someone needed to get one

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Again, why would someone, NEED an abortion?

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OK, let just say if that mother was homeless or HIV positive, ect. would it be better for the fetus to die before it discovers pain or after?

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In the case of HIV, that would be for the life of the mother, and/or fetus, which I have already said was ok.

Now exactly how many women are homeless and HIV positive, and Pregnant. Is that the only reason people are getting abortions?

Korith, back to your other post.

How is abortion horrible if someone needed to get one? Abortion, murder and rape, ect. do not go hand in hand.

OK, let just say if that mother was homeless or HIV positive, ect. would it be better for the fetus to die before it discovers pain or after? I would rather die than having to live that kind of life.

I know this will never stopped being discussed, but trying to lower the rate of repeat threads is better then not trying at all.
-Sunset

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Which one would you prefer? We can do both if you want.

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Either/Both, makes no matter to me.

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Korith, honey, we all ready talked about that.

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Indeed, much longer than it deserved.

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Ok, that guy's (statement) argument sucked.

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Korith, honey, we all ready talked about that.

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Anyone have a response to mine, or are we just going to wait for another one liner to make fun of?

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Which one would you prefer? We can do both if you want.
-Sunset

Ok, that guy's (statement) argument sucked.

Anyone have a response to mine, or are we just going to wait for another one liner to make fun of?

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You are sooooo nice Sunset, no really you are.

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Sarcasm.

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Sunset actually is really nice; she's so nice even I like her. And I don't like anybody.

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More sarcasm.

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AMARIS IS BACK!

HURRAH!

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-Sunset

AMARIS IS BACK!

HURRAH!

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You are sooooo nice Sunset, no really you are.

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Sunset actually is really nice; she's so nice that even I like her. And I don't like anybody.

You are sooooo nice Sunset, no really you are.

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abortion is wrong. thats all there is to it.

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Oh... you're back.

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Good argument.

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I know, wasn't that fantastic? 2 sentence answer, amazing! Simply amazing!
-Sunset

Listen why MURDER A BABY for its father's deeds? Think about it.