I don't like pornography, adult or child. I find it rather disturbing to watch people "go at it". And if it's children, it's all the more worse. Just because it's filmed by children wouldn't make it acceptable, cause quite honestly, what children are going to want to do it? No, in my opinion, it's wrong either way.

hmm yeah thats true.

By having sex under the legal age, it's statutory rape, consentual or not.

biy thats creepy but if wthat you said is true about that being rape whouldn't that mean they made bad choices to get themselves in that situation in the first place?

Some people are. Most cases of 12 year olds having sex is rape though. Technically, it always is.

thats disgusting

is any one actually sexually active that young? age 12 I mean.

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people can have sex with the wrong person at 42 as well as 12

But at age 12, people are less likely to be able to make good decisions and deal with the resulting consequences.

has luvndaddy actually said anything about the topic?

Celtic, a debate is trying to get someone to accept your veiws and that is what you are doing, same as i am and Luvndaddy how can you deny it? the religious statement as i read it was not aimed at you but a statement given as similiar situations, religion forced on someone which we say is illegal and laws making what two people do willingly with each other illegal

get'em celtic get'em!and to Luvndaddy this is a debate forum that is a place where others views and opions are discussed and compared to your own if you can't under stand that go back to the small minded pit from whence you came. Celtic and I are usually on opposite sides of just about very thing but on this issue and on several others I belive she's right that's beacsue I listen/read compare her opion to mine and then make decision on what I belive, that's the point. sorry Celtic he was your's to squash but the stupidity was to much not to respond to.

Dear Newbie (luvndaddy, that name reminds me of one of Sade's books, by the way),

Read my signature. It clearly explains my thoughts on religion. Use a dictionary to look up the words you don't know

Once you type your issues on a debate forum, they will be debated.

Beforehand making false accusations of my morals, I'd like you to check my profile, or the hell, my signature. Before assuming I am a knee-sewn idiot, do as mentioned in the sentence before this one. I'm likely the most insane active poster on this website, and you're dreadfully wrong if you assume I am some sort of virgin Bible-thumper.

CelticNewAger,

It sounds like you want to push your morals on others that don't want it. I don't have a problem with people being religious (I'm not) but i'll be damned if I'd want someone making me pray to Meca three times a day just becuase its what they believe. This subject is the same thing. Theres enough stuff going in on our lives to deal with to spend part of it prying into peoples lives that don't want you. If you don't like it don't watch it but don't hassle others.

Have you ever been with an actual man? By that I mean man not a human with a penis.

Oh, yeah, I'm sure you'd love the whole screwing when aroused thing. Your boyfriend goes to the mall and sees a hot girl, he screws her and you're left heartbroken.

Grow up and back to the real world. I'm a nymphet as well, but I'm realistic.

Again what does he age matter? Your scenario of a 36yo man and a 13 yo girl as long as they both want it they can have sex like rabbits and its none of our business. people can have sex with the wrong person at 42 as well as 12. I was trying to figure out what would the world be like if we did have sex everytime we were arosed. Probably less stressed, treat each other better, and happier. the only down side would be any transmitted illnesses and if sex was that previlant i bet drug companies would find cures for all of them and the current morning after pill that exsist now would take care of any accidents that birthcontrol didn't. And it would also be a much less judgemental and predjudice world.

My God, it has nothing to do with appearance, I'm very hot, thankyouverymuch. The usual portrayal of pornography stars is unrealistic to what most people are, as with is the sex.

I'm not morally stamping you. I have few morals, I have no right to insult yours.

Since you are saying it is desired, I will put a scenario. A 72 year old man with a 7 year old. Or, a 36 year old with a 13 year old, like in my case.

You can't possibly go on your bodies's desires all the time. If humans had sex everytime they were aroused, people would be having sex in the middle of the street at noon, for crying out loud.

to be honest i don't have much of a chest either but is sounds more like you are jealous of the bodies than anything else. So do call porn sae on film, or a naked body on fillm, or unusual sex on film. See my point to me and many others there really isn't anything thats porn the word is just an arbitrary point where an individual thinks the view has exceeded appropriate but that moral stamping changes with every person. naked people even if the are young enjoying there bodies is not wrong its desired!

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Society calls any pictures of us naked even in natural acts such as sex or even laying out naked by the pool society calls it porn

That's because it is pornography. Pornography isn't natural, it's a bunch of pseudo-bisexual plastic-surgery ridden females doing acts and faking orgasms, or a bunch of Viagra-overdosing men with unhumanely perfect bodies doing sexual acts. Here in the real world, that's not the truth.

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porn is nothing but an unnatural conservative term to make a natural thing seem bad. IT

Porn isn't natural. Animals don't take pictures of themselves having sex, do they? No.

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All we teach could be called manipulation, we are shaping minds.

Actually, the porn directors are when they say "Oh, you're gonna make great money and have a great life."

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the word manipulation is just a word to cast a dim light of thing morally repressed people use in these cases.

I'm not morally repressed. I'm too liberal for my own good. But I also have common sense.

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a teen or even preteen having sex isn't manipulation if they consent.

As an expert manipulator, you're extremely wrong. Teenagers, especially females, are incredibly easy to manipulate. They don't have to consent to have it not be manipulation; part of manipulation is tricking them into consenting, giving them a false ideal so they'll think what's not true. Manipulation is not forcing someone, manipulation is controlling and using someone without the person noticing.

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Who are we to say they are to stupid or don't know what they like. Let us kids make our own descions and don't insult us by saying we don't know what we like.

I'm not saying wear a chastity belt, the hell my own sexuality is likely worse and more complex than yours will ever be, but make sane decisions. Know the truth. And the truth is, there are people who thrive on manipulating, on hanging you on a string when you're not looking, so they can use you at their will, and then break that string.

And some kids aren't ready to have sex. Maybe you were at 13, but I know 13-year-olds who don't even know what intercourse is. Do you think they are ready to have sex? Don't you think a sudden penis being into them would shock them if they didn't know intercourse existed? And much less do they know about sexuality in general. If you think they should have sex to learn, you're insane. Yes, you could learn somethings from sex, but at least know the basics (by that I mean what intercourse is and such) beforehand.

what your saying isn't true. Society calls any pictures of us naked even in natural acts such as sex or even laying out naked by the pool society calls it porn. porn is nothing but an unnatural conservative term to make a natural thing seem bad. IT IS NOT. All we teach could be called manipulation, we are shaping minds. the word manipulation is just a word to cast a dim light of thing morally repressed people use in these cases. a teen or even preteen having sex isn't manipulation if they consent. its part of learning and having fun. Who are we to say they are to stupid or don't know what they like. Let us kids make our own descions and don't insult us by saying we don't know what we like.

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What is porn anyway? A movie of poeple or kids moving around doing actions that are day to day or even fantasy is still justa movie. Its socially repressed people with no reason other than wanting to force there moral and religous beliefs on everyone. sex is a natural action just like dancing or eating but we have movies about dancing and they are considered fine, why is sex different. Even if we kids are involved there is nothing wrong with it as long as we agree. Granted I'm not a virgin and I'm 16 but i have enjoyed the sex I've had since i was 13. The age limit on sex is just arbitrary. .

Pornography is any photopgrah or video of a person acting sexually, or being nude in a provocative way.

Sex is natural. Pornography isn't. And pornography is rarely a realistic view of what sex is.

Some kids can't handle their emotions and can be manipulated to do things they're not ready to. And, I mean young children to preteen girls.